<div dir="ltr"><div>And thanks for the recommendation. Andrew&#39;s a friend and colleague down the road, and I&#39;m glad to have his article pointed out to me (and to my student).</div><div> </div><div>Hannibal</div><div>
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Yes, it really was good, Diana.  Thanks!
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:45 AM<div class="im"><br>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Diana<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:34 AM<br>
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 had a section of Sin, but it&#39;s not &quot;out&quot; anywhere yet.</span></p>
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From: Arlene Stiebel &lt;<a href="mailto:amstiebel@verizon.net" target="_blank">amstiebel@verizon.net</a>&gt;<br>
To: John Milton Discussion List &lt;<a href="mailto:milton-l@lists.richmond.edu" target="_blank">milton-l@lists.richmond.edu</a>&gt;<br>
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 of Pandemonium.) The description of his semi- or unconscious state is peculiar and suggestive.  Sin as product of
<i>passivity</i>, of <i>non-agency</i>.  This idea seems related to her status as rigid allegory (and is of course associated with rigidly anti-feminist exegesis, representing in her serpentine, grotesque features not only Spenser&#39;s Errour but also the woman-snake
 tempter who appears in some Fall dramas and paintings).  As rigid allegory she is self-referential, not a product of active choice and deliberation, but of an entropic agency in relation to prepackaged, inflexible &quot;truths&quot; or abstractions.  What
<i>is </i>&quot;sin&quot; in <i>Paradise Lost</i>?  This idea of fixed self-referentiality recalls Satan&#39;s narcissistic love for her as a product of his own mind (that leapt out sans his control).  She is the divesture of authority masked as ultimate authority.  She
 is complicated!  (Your student should certainly look at Victoria Kahn&#39;s essay on allegory and the sublime in
<i>Paradise Lost</i>.)</span></p>
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 Sin in PL. I have a senior undergrad interested in writing a thesis on the topic. We had a discussion of Sin on the list not too long ago, so many of you may have ideas fresh in mind.</span></p>
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The Ohio State University<br>
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