[Milton-L] Milton and Race?

Matthew Jordan matthewjorda at gmail.com
Tue Sep 18 20:09:30 EDT 2018


I should like to thank Hugh for supplying that reference, and to apologize
for not being aware, Hugh, of your piece, which I believe appeared in the
same volume as an effort of mine. Since then a lot has happened and I am no
longer a professional Miltonist, but I look forward to benefitting (can
that spelling be right??) from your views.

Best, Matt

On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 23:58, Valerie Shepard <vacullen at gmail.com> wrote:

> There's a recent book by Reginald A. Wilburn, *Preaching the Gospel of
> Black Revolt: Appropriating Milton in Early African American Literature.  *(Duquesne
> UP, 2014).
> Best,
> Valerie Shepard
>
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>> From: Matthew Jordan <matthewjorda at gmail.com>
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>> Thanks, Louis, and apologies to Steven/Stephen. I am regressing to the
>> oral-aural while at the same time becoming just a little deaf.
>>
>> Best, Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 15:43, Schwartz, Louis <lschwart at richmond.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Perhaps this is the essay? "Ham's Vicious Race: Slavery and John Milton"
>> > Steven Jablonski
>> > [image: Studies in English Literature, 1500-1900]
>> > <
>> https://www.jstor.org/action/showPublication?journalCode=studengllite1500
>> >
>> >  Studies in English Literature, 1500-1900
>> > Vol. 37, No. 1, The English Renaissance (Winter, 1997), pp. 173-190 (18
>> > pages)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Louis
>> >
>> > ======================
>> > Louis Schwartz
>> > Professor of English
>> > Chair, Department of English
>> > University of Richmond
>> > Richmond, VA  23173
>> > (804) 289-8315
>> > lschwart at richmond.edu
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------------------
>> > *From:* milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu <milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu>
>> on
>> > behalf of Matthew Jordan <matthewjorda at gmail.com>
>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:37 AM
>> > *To:* John Milton Discussion List
>> > *Subject:* Re: [Milton-L] Milton and Race?
>> >
>> > Stephen Dobranski's challenging essay on "Milton and the Race of Ham,"
>> or
>> > something?
>> >
>> > Best, Matt
>> >
>> > On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 13:55 Jameela Lares, <Jameela.Lares at usm.edu>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > There is a chapter on Satan as Spanish conquistador in Christopher
>> > Hodgkins?s Reforming Empire: Protestant Colonialism and Conscience in
>> > British Literature (U of Missouri P, 2002), along with more general
>> > discussions of British exceptionalism.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Jameela Lares, Professor of English
>> >
>> > Charles W. Moorman Distinguished Professor, 2017-2019
>> >
>> > The University of Southern Mississippi
>> >
>> > 108 College Drive #5037
>> >
>> > Hattiesburg, MS 39406-0001
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [image: cid:5ED493B1-35E4-43EF-824B-396581CC764B at eagleair.usm.edu]
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *From:* milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu <milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu>
>> *On
>> > Behalf Of *Joseph Black
>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:29 AM
>> > *To:* milton-l at richmond.edu
>> > *Subject:* [Milton-L] Milton and Race?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > A graduate student has asked me for references to scholarship on 'Milton
>> > and Race': nothing came immediately to mind so I turn to the list for
>> help.
>> > I will give the student some references to work on Milton and the
>> politics
>> > of slavery (Skinner, Dzelainis, Jablonski), but surely somebody has
>> > addressed Milton and early modern conceptions of race, or even later
>> uses
>> > of Milton in connection to issues of race? I feel like I'm missing
>> > something obvious...
>> >
>> > Any suggestions appreciated!
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Joseph Black
>> > University of Massachusetts Amherst
>> >
>> >
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>> From: Hugh Wilson <wilsonh at gram.edu>
>> To: John Milton Discussion List <milton-l at richmond.edu>
>> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Milton and Race?
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>> For the record, I think Jablonski's reading
>>
>> of Milton's position on slavery is profoundly
>>
>> mistaken, and the evidence, such as it is, for
>>
>> his position is scant at best.
>>
>>
>> In Arbitrary Rule: Slavery, Tyranny and the Power
>>
>> of Life and Death [2013], Mary Nyquist seems to
>>
>> accept Jablonski's position.  If so, I demur.
>>
>>
>> For another opinion, see ?Milton and Human
>>
>> Rights,? in Milton, Rights and Liberties, 21-30,
>>
>> Ed. Christopher Tournu and Neil Forsyth. Bern,
>>
>> Switzerland: Peter Lang, 2008.
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>> Hugh F. Wilson, PhD
>>
>> Professor, Department of English
>>
>>   and Foreign Languages
>>
>> Grambling State University
>>
>> Grambling, LA 71245
>>
>> Cell: (318) 548-9817
>>
>> wilsonh at gram.edu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu <milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu> on
>> behalf of Matthew Jordan <matthewjorda at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 11:15 AM
>> To: John Milton Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Milton and Race?
>>
>> Thanks, Louis, and apologies to Steven/Stephen. I am regressing to the
>> oral-aural while at the same time becoming just a little deaf.
>>
>> Best, Matt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 15:43, Schwartz, Louis <lschwart at richmond.edu
>> <mailto:lschwart at richmond.edu>> wrote:
>> Perhaps this is the essay?
>> "Ham's Vicious Race: Slavery and John Milton"
>> Steven Jablonski
>> [Studies in English Literature, 1500-1900]<
>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.jstor.org_action_showPublication-3FjournalCode-3Dstudengllite1500&d=DwMFaQ&c=LzN5EdAODBTUJvSUkgrxJQ&r=cMOUziv4tVcSPqmj8_G_uQ&m=v4DmW3eK7GzbyayvpnkFtYUtmxr66cxTVfsAF4ltIR8&s=pyYFEX91YvvT01PJaTQpYV5MzK0vHPQQy-yC2cIhptA&e=
>> >
>>  Studies in English Literature, 1500-1900
>> Vol. 37, No. 1, The English Renaissance (Winter, 1997), pp. 173-190 (18
>> pages)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Louis
>>
>> ======================
>> Louis Schwartz
>> Professor of English
>> Chair, Department of English
>> University of Richmond
>> Richmond, VA  23173
>> (804) 289-8315
>> lschwart at richmond.edu<mailto:lschwart at richmond.edu>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu<mailto:milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu>
>> <milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu<mailto:milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu>> on
>> behalf of Matthew Jordan <matthewjorda at gmail.com<mailto:
>> matthewjorda at gmail.com>>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:37 AM
>> To: John Milton Discussion List
>> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Milton and Race?
>>
>> Stephen Dobranski's challenging essay on "Milton and the Race of Ham," or
>> something?
>>
>> Best, Matt
>>
>> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 13:55 Jameela Lares, <Jameela.Lares at usm.edu<mailto:
>> Jameela.Lares at usm.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> There is a chapter on Satan as Spanish conquistador in Christopher
>> Hodgkins?s Reforming Empire: Protestant Colonialism and Conscience in
>> British Literature (U of Missouri P, 2002), along with more general
>> discussions of British exceptionalism.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jameela Lares, Professor of English
>>
>> Charles W. Moorman Distinguished Professor, 2017-2019
>>
>> The University of Southern Mississippi
>>
>> 108 College Drive #5037
>>
>> Hattiesburg, MS 39406-0001
>>
>>
>>
>> [cid:5ED493B1-35E4-43EF-824B-396581CC764B at eagleair.usm.edu]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> From: milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu<mailto:milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu>
>> <milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu<mailto:milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu>> On
>> Behalf Of Joseph Black
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:29 AM
>> To: milton-l at richmond.edu<mailto:milton-l at richmond.edu>
>> Subject: [Milton-L] Milton and Race?
>>
>>
>>
>> A graduate student has asked me for references to scholarship on 'Milton
>> and Race': nothing came immediately to mind so I turn to the list for help.
>> I will give the student some references to work on Milton and the politics
>> of slavery (Skinner, Dzelainis, Jablonski), but surely somebody has
>> addressed Milton and early modern conceptions of race, or even later uses
>> of Milton in connection to issues of race? I feel like I'm missing
>> something obvious...
>>
>> Any suggestions appreciated!
>>
>> --
>>
>> Joseph Black
>> University of Massachusetts Amherst
>>
>>
>>
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