[Milton-L] Exam

Sara Van Den Berg sara.vandenberg at slu.edu
Tue Dec 4 16:50:03 EST 2018


I rarely remember or repeat comments, but one has always stuck in my memory: "Throughout the play, King Lear keeps trying to have a catharsis."


Sara

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I seem to recall "Knights in White Satin," I do not think it was Miltonic.

Jeffery Hodges

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:48 AM Crystal L Bartolovich <clbartol at syr.edu<mailto:clbartol at syr.edu>> wrote:
I love the “ordinary pheasant on the street.” Along similar lines, my absolute favorite of all time: “the levelers and diggers were trying to break the Norman yolk”.  You can’t have a revolution without breaking a few eggs!

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> The funniest piece of student "misspeaking" I ever encountered occurred in
> a discussion of a piece of pictorial propaganda which bore the legend
> "Oliver Cromwell's Cabinet Council Discovered." I was informed that it was
> clearly intended "to appeal to the ordinary pheasant in the street," which
> takes the prize for not only its instant surreal absurdity but also for the
> way it contains several different kinds of wrongness which, firework-like,
> arrive in the mind as a series of supplementary ignitions.
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> Best, Matt
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> On Mon, 3 Dec 2018, 15:42 Gregory Machacek <Gregory.Machacek at marist.edu<mailto:Gregory.Machacek at marist.edu>
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>> Mine wasn't Miltonic, but I had a student years ago say researchers could
>> perhaps find the answer to a particular question by using telephone poles.
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>> Be well,
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>> Greg Machacek
>> Professor of English
>> Marist College
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>> I must say I have become curious to know what Satin does in PL. At this
>> point I would not be surprised by a cancan ;)
>> Thank you all for posting these exam 'gems' :)
>> Kind regards,
>> Larisa Kocic-Z?mb?
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>> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:02:36 +0000
>> From: Neil Forsyth <neil.forsyth at unil.ch<mailto:neil.forsyth at unil.ch>>
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>> A friend has been grading re-sit exams. A definition of pentameter: "5
>> rhyming lines consisting of 5 iambs. example: Paradise lost by John
>> Milton.? As she says, it should not take me long to finish my edition then.
>>
>> Neil
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>> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 10:22:33 -0500
>> From: James Rovira <jamesrovira at gmail.com<mailto:jamesrovira at gmail.com>>
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>> Ha... could someone read this aloud over Milton?s grave? That might bring
>> him back.
>>
>> Jim R
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>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Neil Forsyth <neil.forsyth at unil.ch<mailto:neil.forsyth at unil.ch>> wrote:
>>>
>>> A friend has been grading re-sit exams. A definition of pentameter: "5
>> rhyming lines consisting of 5 iambs. example: Paradise lost by John
>> Milton.? As she says, it should not take me long to finish my edition then.
>>>
>>> Neil
>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 15:27:33 +0000
>> From: "Stackhouse, Amy" <AStackhouse at iona.edu<mailto:AStackhouse at iona.edu>>
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>> That beats all the stuff Satin does in PL in my students' papers.
>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:24 AM, James Rovira <jamesrovira at gmail.com<mailto:jamesrovira at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ha... could someone read this aloud over Milton?s grave? That might
>> bring him back.
>>>
>>> Jim R
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Neil Forsyth <neil.forsyth at unil.ch<mailto:neil.forsyth at unil.ch>>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A friend has been grading re-sit exams. A definition of pentameter: "5
>> rhyming lines consisting of 5 iambs. example: Paradise lost by John
>> Milton.? As she says, it should not take me long to finish my edition then.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
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>> My recent favorite is "the rhyme scheme is iambic pentameter."  And does
>> anyone else have students insisting that a good text "has flow"?  And of
>> course they cannot define the term.
>>
>> Jameela Lares, Professor of English
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>> That beats all the stuff Satin does in PL in my students' papers.
>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:24 AM, James Rovira <jamesrovira at gmail.com<mailto:jamesrovira at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ha... could someone read this aloud over Milton?s grave? That might
>> bring him back.
>>>
>>> Jim R
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Neil Forsyth <neil.forsyth at unil.ch<mailto:neil.forsyth at unil.ch>>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A friend has been grading re-sit exams. A definition of pentameter: "5
>> rhyming lines consisting of 5 iambs. example: Paradise lost by John
>> Milton.? As she says, it should not take me long to finish my edition then.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
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>> From: "Savoie, John" <jsavoie at siue.edu<mailto:jsavoie at siue.edu>>
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>> My recent favorite is "the rhyme scheme is iambic pentameter."  And does
>> anyone else have students insisting that a good text "has flow"?  And of
>> course they cannot define the term.
>>
>> Jameela Lares, Professor of English
>> Charles W. Moorman Distinguished Professor, 2017-2019
>> The University of Southern Mississippi
>> 108 College Drive #5037
>> Hattiesburg, MS 39406-0001
>>
>>
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>>
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>> From: milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu<mailto:milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu> <milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu<mailto:milton-l-bounces at richmond.edu>> On
>> Behalf Of Stackhouse, Amy
>> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2018 9:28 AM
>> To: John Milton Discussion List <milton-l at richmond.edu<mailto:milton-l at richmond.edu>>
>> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] exam
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>> That beats all the stuff Satin does in PL in my students' papers.
>>
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:24 AM, James Rovira <jamesrovira at gmail.com<mailto:jamesrovira at gmail.com>>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ha... could someone read this aloud over Milton?s grave? That might
>> bring him back.
>>>
>>> Jim R
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Neil Forsyth <neil.forsyth at unil.ch<mailto:neil.forsyth at unil.ch>>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A friend has been grading re-sit exams. A definition of pentameter: "5
>> rhyming lines consisting of 5 iambs. example: Paradise lost by John
>> Milton.? As she says, it should not take me long to finish my edition then.
>>>>
>>>> Neil
>>>
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