[Milton-L] Appropriation of Areopagitica

Arlene Stiebel amstiebel at aol.com
Thu Aug 2 22:22:56 EDT 2018

"Bern baby Bern" is not about the GOP.  Nor guns.

Will the Moderator please step in?

On Aug 2, 2018, at 7:18 PM, James Rovira <jamesrovira at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think we should keep in mind that the topic came up because of its connection to Milton, who was consummately political in ways that still (obviously) matter today. I think the question of what Milton might think about gun control with knowledge of our current kinds of guns and what has been done with them is an interesting one. If we apply his principles of freedom of speech and of the press in Areopagitica to gun control, he would want the issue subject to vigorous debate in public, and he wouldn't think twice about banning guns, or any kind of guns, if that was the conclusion that our reason and morality led to -- just as he was willing to burn books after they've been read and discussed if they were unlicensed and the authors were not identified, but the books themselves were found to be "mischievous":   
> "And as for regulating the Presse, let no man think to have the honour of advising ye better then your selves have done in that Order publisht next before this, that no book be Printed, unlesse the Printers and the Authors name, or at least the Printers be register'd. Those which otherwise come forth, if they be found mischievous and libellous, the fire and the executioner will be the timeliest and the most effectuall remedy, that mans prevention can use."
> If I offended you by pointing out fault for the murderous, profit-driven, inhumane and criminal stance of the GOP on gun control, you have a problem. 
> I've had my say about the topic, though. 
> Jim R
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