[Milton-L] forwarded query re. Milton in Max Weber

Hannibal Hamlin hamlin.hannibal at gmail.com
Wed Sep 9 12:21:39 EDT 2015

Dear Miltonists,

On behalf of David Sacks, who posted this query to FICINO, I'm forwarding
his query to you. Is there something like this in the *De Doctrina*, which
seems to be (indirectly, via German) the source? Weber's quotation has a
long and complex afterlife, since a variety of authors (including
apparently Karl Barth) pick up the Milton line without checking further.


Dear Colleagues,

Parsons), Max Weber offers this quotation as summing up what he calls
"Milton's well-known opinion of the doctrine" of predestination: "Though I
may be sent to Hell for it, such a God will never command my respect."

The accompanying endnote does not provide a citation to any work by
Milton.  Instead it says: "On Milton's theology see the essay of Eibach in
the THEOL. STUDIEN UND KRITIKEN, 1879.  Macaulay's essay on it...is
superficial. For more detail see the somewhat too schematic six-volume
English work of Masson, and the German biography of Milton which rest upon

Parsons, of course, was an eminent sociologist, not a literary scholar.
I'm guessing that he translated the quote attributed to Milton directly
from Weber's German without having a clue as to what Milton himself had
said in English.  Does anyone recognize the quote as coming from something
written by Milton? If not, does anyone have a suggestion about where the
thought--if not the actual words--might be found?  For a variety of
reasons, I'd like to track the it down.

With best wishes, David


Hannibal Hamlin
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