[Milton-L] Milton and the chalice

John K Leonard jleonard at uwo.ca
Wed Nov 18 08:09:44 EST 2015


To the dismay of Sir Walter Raleigh, Adam and Eve drink from coconut shells ("bearded husk") which is about as far from golden chalices as you can get (except for when they scoop the brimming stream with their bare hands).
 
John
 
On 11/18/15, Ross Leasure <trleasure at gmail.com> wrote: 
>   "Chalice," as if comes from Greek (κύλιξ) through Latin (calix), means simply "cup."  As such, there were most certainly wooden cups; the material would have been one of the very first to have been used for such a purpose in lieu of natural objects like leaves, shells or horns.  At least, that's my understanding. --Ross
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>  On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:09 AM, JCarl Bellinger <dionhalic at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Thank you, Sara van den Berg! -Carl
> > ps What a lovely conception: "wooden chalices and golden priests." But I wonder if chalices ever were made of wood.
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> > On Saturday, November 14, 2015, Sara van den Berg <vandens at slu.edu> wrote:
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> > >  Miltpon refers to "the Communion Chalice" in Eikonoklastes.3.558.3 (Stern and Kollmeier, Prose Concordance). He also attacks the change from "wooden chalices and golden priests" in "former times" to '"golden Chalices and wooden Priests" (Of Reformation 1.557.15-16).  Elsewhere he declares, "For golden chalices and wooden Priests, thank your selves" (Animadversions  1.717.23). 
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> > > There are no examples of "grail" in Milton's prose, but the Concordance lists several references to "cup." I don't know if any o them would be useful to you.
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> > > Sara van den Berg
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> > >  On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 6:54 PM, JCarl Bellinger <dionhalic at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Does Milton anywhere mention chalice, cup, grail? -Carl
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>   T. Ross Leasure, Ph.D.
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