[Milton-L] Fwd: The Common Good??

Matthew Jordan matthewjorda at gmail.com
Wed Oct 15 19:20:04 EDT 2014


Dear All

A further note on "the classic" - particularly for Jameela...Italo
Calvino's definitions of same in NYRB (
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/1986/oct/09/why-read-the-classics/
): 6) A classic is a book that has never finished saying what it has to say.

Best

Matt

On 6 October 2014 01:25, Matthew Jordan <matthewjorda at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm just off to bed, but the phrase "patient of interpretation" (as a
> description of the classic's capacity for pluralization) comes to mind.
> I'll have a bit more of a think tomorrow...
>
> Best
>
> Matt
>
> On 6 October 2014 01:12, Jameela Lares <jameela.lares at usm.edu> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, Matt.  I was hardly clear.  I was just wondering if you had any
>> zinger quotations from Kermode's book, as I would not have the time to be
>> able to read it any time soon.
>>
>> On the other hand, I probably _will_ now remember to read it, so if you
>> are similarly strapped for time, even what you've said has served.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jameela Lares
>> Professor of English
>> The University of Southern Mississippi
>> 118 College Drive, #5037
>> Hattiesburg, MS  39406-0001
>> 601 266-4319 ofc
>> 601 266-5757 fax
>> ________________________________________
>> From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu [
>> milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] on behalf of Matthew Jordan [
>> matthewjorda at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 6:02 PM
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>> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Fwd: The Common Good??
>>
>> Sorry, Jameela: from whom, and concerning what, exactly?? The idea of the
>> classic as always somehow contemporary?? (Or, as I think Kermode has it,
>> "enduring," which may well be via Benjamin, in which case it has
>> connotations of "patient suffering," of undergoing some kind of
>> ordeal....)...??
>>
>> On 5 October 2014 23:03, Jameela Lares <jameela.lares at usm.edu<mailto:
>> jameela.lares at usm.edu>> wrote:
>> Thanks, Matt.  If you have any representative quotations. . . .
>>
>> Jameela Lares
>> Professor of English
>> The University of Southern Mississippi
>> 118 College Drive, #5037
>> Hattiesburg, MS  39406-0001
>> 601 266-4319 ofc
>> 601 266-5757 fax
>> ________________________________________
>> From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu<mailto:
>> milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu> [milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu
>> <mailto:milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu>] on behalf of Matthew
>> Jordan [matthewjorda at gmail.com<mailto:matthewjorda at gmail.com>]
>> Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2014 11:58 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Fwd: The Common Good??
>>
>> Jameela, the interesting notion you float sounds very much like what is
>> perhaps the central idea of Frank Kermode's The Classic. I take it he
>> counts (as a Miltonist, that is).
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On 4 October 2014 21:06, Jameela Lares <jameela.lares at usm.edu<mailto:
>> jameela.lares at usm.edu><mailto:jameela.lares at usm.edu<mailto:
>> jameela.lares at usm.edu>>> wrote:
>> That comment is certainly in the ballpark, Richard.  Thanks.
>>
>> Jameela Lares
>> Professor of English
>> The University of Southern Mississippi
>> 118 College Drive, #5037
>> Hattiesburg, MS  39406-0001
>> 601 266-4319 ofc
>> 601 266-5757 fax
>> ________________________________________
>> From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu<mailto:
>> milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu><mailto:
>> milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu<mailto:
>> milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu>> [
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>> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 10:52 AM
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>>
>> Pound said:  Poetry is news that stays news.
>>
>> And by that, of course, he meant great poetry.
>>
>>
>> ________________________________________
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>> milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu><mailto:
>> milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu<mailto:
>> milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu>> [
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>> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 10:26 AM
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>>
>> Carter,
>>
>> You make me wonder if the definition of a classic work of literature
>> should include the notion that it is always somehow current, but I imagine
>> that this has been said, and even said by Miltonists.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jameela Lares
>> Professor of English
>> The University of Southern Mississippi
>> 118 College Drive, #5037
>> Hattiesburg, MS  39406-0001
>> 601 266-4319 ofc
>> 601 266-5757 fax
>> ________________________________________
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