[Milton-L] Fwd: The Common Good??

Matthew Jordan matthewjorda at gmail.com
Sat Oct 4 15:42:17 EDT 2014


I was, perhaps, "sailing close to the wind," as my teachers used to remark
in respect of my observance of school uniform requirements. As I did not
say to them, I promise not to make a habit of it.

Best

Matt

On 4 October 2014 17:52, Stella Revard <srevard at siue.edu> wrote:

> Well done, Richard and Jameela!
>
>
>
> On 10/04/14, *"Richard A. Strier" * <rastrier at uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
> Pound said:  Poetry is news that stays news.
>
> And by that, of course, he meant great poetry.
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu [
> milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] on behalf of Jameela Lares [
> jameela.lares at usm.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 10:26 AM
> To: John Milton Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Fwd:  The Common Good??
>
> Carter,
>
> You make me wonder if the definition of a classic work of literature
> should include the notion that it is always somehow current, but I imagine
> that this has been said, and even said by Miltonists.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jameela Lares
> Professor of English
> The University of Southern Mississippi
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> ________________________________________
> From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu [
> milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] on behalf of Stella Revard [
> srevard at siue.edu]
> Sent: Saturday, October 04, 2014 10:08 AM
> To: John Milton Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Fwd:  The Common Good??
>
> Many thanks, David; it's an excellent book.  And on behalf of Matt's
> political citations, the book (and any Milton bio) makes clear that from
> Milton's childhood on his idea of poetry and true poet was what we surely
> must call "political"--he aspired to sing for the nation, not just to
> entertain and delight but to lead and guide.  Everyone on the list knows
> this, and royalist-favoring critics  certainly "bring in" and voice
> political views in books and essays cited and discussed on the Milton
> List.  I think what you refer to, though, is contemporary British political
> people and policies and events.
>
> The book for which you very helpfully provided a link shows, among other
> things, how one of Milton's teachers, the junior Gill, got into hot water
> over political matters (Buckingham and James) and was punished by Laud. So,
> thoroughly Miltonic, highly political, and easy to link up with 2014
> British stuff, or American, etc. etc.  Still, I agree that this can
> degenerate quickly into tweety/ranty/bloggy stuff and for the List it is
> better to focus on 17C politics, always aware that poets--Milton,
> Shakespeare, Jonson, Dryden for instance--"apply" to events and history in
> any age including our own:  just about any performance of Macbeth in the
> later 20th and early 21st centuries can illustrate that, and in the debates
> over Samson Agonistes John Carey and many others referenced Israel and
> Palestine....
>
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