[Milton-L] that fruit (Blake is probably drawing a blacklocusttree)

Carol Barton, Ph.D., CPCM cbartonphd1 at verizon.net
Tue Apr 15 19:03:12 EDT 2014


Yes. It put a nice gash in my leg (and I do mean gash--it was hard to stop the bleeding!) when I drove my riding lawnmower under one of its branches. I didn't know it could be poisonous then, but I hated that tree, anyway--I'd never seen anything but a rose bush that could do even close to that amount of damage, but this bloody thing had **talons**!! (Why anyone in his or her right mind would plant that tree on residential property without malice aforethought I don't know; it was there when we moved in.)

Carol


From: Horace Jeffery Hodges 
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 6:56 PM
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Subject: Re: [Milton-L] that fruit (Blake is probably drawing a blacklocusttree)


Thanks. Fruit or no fruit, the black locust tree itself looks pretty scary with those thorns. Seems like a case where one could say, "Its bark is the same as its bite!" 


Jeffery





On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Carol Barton, Ph.D., CPCM <cbartonphd1 at verizon.net> wrote:

  The fruit is there, Jeffery, but it's not the fruit of the black locust (which is a long snow-pea-like pod): http://www.fcps.edu/islandcreekes/ecology/black_locust.htm. The tree does seem to be what Blake was working from, though.


  From: Horace Jeffery Hodges 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:14 PM
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  I didn't see the fruit at that link. 


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  On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Carol Barton, Ph.D., CPCM <cbartonphd1 at verizon.net> wrote:

    Have a look at this site, all, especially the pendulous yellow fruit pictured at the bottom. Fitting that the black locust can be poisonous:
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    http://treekb.com/locust-tree-thorns/


    From: Carol Barton, Ph.D., CPCM 
    Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:02 PM
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    Interesting, John: but then what do you make of those tree-trunks? (Having seen my ex stabbed by the vicious thorns on a black locust tree, and had that unhappy experience myself, I think Blake's rendition of both fruit and tree is more psychological than representational--and the Fruit is intended to evoke nothing we recognize because it's nothing that grows in the fallen world.)
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    On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 3:54 PM, John Hale <john.hale at otago.ac.nz> wrote:

      A side-light on the fruit-debate might be seeing what illustrators have done with it. Could Blake's be a passion-fruit, aha and oho? 


             
             




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