[Milton-L] that fruit (Blake is probably drawing a black locusttree)

Horace Jeffery Hodges horacejeffery at gmail.com
Tue Apr 15 18:56:53 EDT 2014


Thanks. Fruit or no fruit, the black locust tree itself looks pretty scary
with those thorns. Seems like a case where one could say, "Its bark is the
same as its bite!"

Jeffery


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Carol Barton, Ph.D., CPCM <
cbartonphd1 at verizon.net> wrote:

>  The fruit is there, Jeffery, but it's not the fruit of the black locust
> (which is a long snow-pea-like pod):
> http://www.fcps.edu/islandcreekes/ecology/black_locust.htm. The tree does
> seem to be what Blake was working from, though.
>
>  *From:* Horace Jeffery Hodges <horacejeffery at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:14 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Milton-L] that fruit (Blake is probably drawing a black
> locusttree)
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> I didn't see the fruit at that link.
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> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Carol Barton, Ph.D., CPCM <
> cbartonphd1 at verizon.net> wrote:
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>>  Have a look at this site, all, especially the pendulous yellow fruit
>> pictured at the bottom. Fitting that the black locust can be poisonous:
>> Â
>> http://treekb.com/locust-tree-thorns/
>>
>>  *From:* Carol Barton, Ph.D., CPCM <cbartonphd1 at verizon.net>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:02 PM
>> *To:* John Milton Discussion List <milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Milton-L] that fruit
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>>  Interesting, John: but then what do you make of those tree-trunks?
>> (Having seen my ex stabbed by the vicious thorns on a black locust tree,
>> and had that unhappy experience myself, I think Blake's rendition of both
>> fruit and tree is more psychological than representational--and the Fruit
>> is intended to evoke nothing we recognize because it's nothing that grows
>> in the fallen world.)
>> Â
>> Here's a picture of the honey locust tree's thorns, which are similar:
>> Â
>> Â
>>      Â
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>> On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 3:54 PM, John Hale <john.hale at otago.ac.nz> wrote:
>>
>>>  A side-light on the fruit-debate might be seeing what illustrators
>>> have done with it. Could Blake's be a passion-fruit, aha and oho?
>>>
>>>
>>>     <https://alumni.otago.ac.nz/page.redir?target=http%3a%2f%2fwww.alumni.otago.ac.nz&srcid=14723&srctid=1&erid=825024&trid=d2d94fae-d7fe-43ea-80d4-5e91cff803ef>
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