[Milton-L] obedience to your creator

JD Fleming jfleming at sfu.ca
Thu Apr 10 15:13:52 EDT 2014


Milgram dissenters: "Despite appearances, expectations, and evident authority, this is just plain spitting WRONG." 
Abdiel: ditto. 


It is a matter, as Gadamer says, of seeing what is questionable. The skill on which everything in PL depends. 
jdf 

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From: "Michael E Bryson" <michael.bryson at csun.edu> 
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Milgram Experiment Dissenters: "You can't make me do that! It is morally wrong to inflict that kind of pain on a human being. I'm leaving." 

Abdiel: "You can't make me do that! The King will get mad, and will punish us by inflicting pain. I'm leaving." 


Michael Bryson 
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From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu [milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] On Behalf Of Carrol Cox [cbcox at ilstu.edu] 
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JD Fleming: 

But a few spoke out: stood up and said: I don't care who you are or what you say or what this is--you guys can't do that. 

Abdiel is one of the few. JDF 

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Abdiel is a fictional character, like Elizabeth Bennett or The Lone Ranger. And (in the context of the fiction) it doesn't take much courage on his part to "stand up," since as he himself notes, those not "standing up" are going to end up in a very unpleasant place: that is the point of his making Power his ultimate argument. 

It has not always been clear in this thread whether the interest is in correctly construing a fiction or in asserting some ontological truth. 

Carrol 







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