[Milton-L] human intellectual & moral capacity

James Rovira jamesrovira at gmail.com
Sun Apr 6 15:45:36 EDT 2014

I'm more interested in the reasoning than the fact: does it matter that
Eve's sin is somehow lesser than Satan's, or for that matter, why does it
matter at all that there was an element of deceit in Eve's fall and none
whatsoever in Satan's? If grace is undeserved, Satan's sin being either
worse or somehow different without being worse shouldn't matter. If Adam
and Eve can only repent because of God's prior act, why doesn't God so act
upon Satan? He doesn't deserve it? That's not grace, then.

I think we need to wrap our heads around the idea that worthiness before
God (though not people) is an absolute quality: the difference between
being worthy and unworthy is infinite because it is qualitative. It's like
an on/off switch -- all or nothing.

Jim R

On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Richard A. Strier <rastrier at uchicago.edu>wrote:

>  "Eve is not Satan's intellectual match, and neither are we."  I think
> this vastly underestimates Milton's belief in human intellectual and moral
> capacity (see "Of Education," Areopagitica, etc, etc).  As Satan says --
> I think correctly -- in PR, the positions that the Son articulates in the
> dialogue between them show the Son to be "th'utmost of mere man both wise
> and good, / Not more."  For the Son to show himself to be "more," something
> else is required (and happens, of course).
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