[Milton-L] tree of life

Matthew Jordan matthewjorda at gmail.com
Sat Apr 5 12:43:58 EDT 2014


NB - in the UK we get our fruit and veg from Africa, and our fish filleted
in China...


On 5 April 2014 17:42, Matthew Jordan <matthewjorda at gmail.com> wrote:

> Containerization, surely? (And propagation, of course.)
>
>
> On 5 April 2014 17:41, JD Fleming <jfleming at sfu.ca> wrote:
>
>> One tradition held that A+E were immortal through constant noshing on the
>> tree of life. Thus a troubling medieval counter-factual: Had they not
>> fallen, but procreated, their descendants populating the globe, how wd the
>> immortalizing fruit have been transported the necessary distances without
>> rotting? Anyway, this would seem to be the thought Milton is thinking
>> here--though it doesn't necessarily fit with those he thinks elsewhere. jdf
>>
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>> *From: *"Dave LTC MIL USA USMA Harper" <Dave.Harper at usma.edu>
>> *To: *milton-l at lists.richmond.edu
>> *Sent: *Saturday, 5 April, 2014 08:29:28
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [Milton-L] tree of life
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>> The arbitrariness of the injunction against the forbidden fruit (in
>> parallel
>> with the perhaps equally arbitrary exaltation of the Son) has never
>> bothered
>> me as much as the Tree of Life. I appreciate the bringing of knowledge of
>> good and evil into the world through the act of disobedience, the same way
>> that I sense that the parallel exaltation of the Son brings both the
>> potential for disobedience along with a revelation of angelic history (I
>> suspect Abdiel probably didn't know he was created by secondary hands
>> prior
>> to the exaltation).
>>
>> The tree of Life bothers me not only because it seems to have an inherent
>> immortality-granting quality, but because (1) there was no injunction
>> against eating of it and (2) it would serve no purpose in an prelapsarian
>> world where apparently everything was immortal anyway. And yet, we know it
>> was there, and the narrator names it such when Satan alights on it as a
>> cormorant.
>>
>> God seems to have hedged his bets by placing an immortality-granting tree
>> in
>> an immortal garden, but then he takes it away when it is most needed. Any
>> allegorical reference to salvation seems strained at best.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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