[Milton-L] Sin and Scientific American

Christine Gray langwidge at comcast.net
Tue Oct 22 16:25:13 EDT 2013


In re. a current discussion.

 

The sidebars are apt as well.

 

Posted by Christine, the lurker

 

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-science-of-sin
<http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-science-of-sin&WT.mc_i
d=SA_CAT_HLTH_20131022> &WT.mc_id=SA_CAT_HLTH_20131022

 

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[mailto:milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] On Behalf Of Hannibal Hamlin
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:11 PM
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And thanks for the recommendation. Andrew's a friend and colleague down the
road, and I'm glad to have his article pointed out to me (and to my
student).

 

Hannibal

 

 

 

On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:47 AM, David Urban <dvu2 at calvin.edu> wrote:

Yes, it really was good, Diana.  Thanks! 

 

-David

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And a fine paper it was, Diana! I'll be drawing on it in my teaching this
week.

 

Kevin J. Donovan

Professor of English

Middle Tennessee State University

MTSU Box 70

Murfreesboro, TN 37132

Phone: 615-898-5898

Fax: 615-494-8744

 

From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu
[mailto:milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] On Behalf Of Diana
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:34 AM
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I recommend an excellent article by Andrew Escobedo: "Allegorical Agency and
the Sin of Angels" (ELH 75 (2008).  I just presented an article at
Murfreesboro that had a section of Sin, but it's not "out" anywhere yet.

Diana T Benet 

-----Original Message-----
From: Arlene Stiebel <amstiebel at verizon.net>
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Sent: Fri, Oct 4, 2013 12:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Sin

I'd recommend CS Lewis: A Preface to Paradise Lost as an essential resource.


 

-- Arlene

 

 

On Oct 4, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Brendan Prawdzik <brendanprawdzik at gmail.com>
wrote:

 

Hi Hannibal and all, 

 

I'm much interested in the way that Sin emerges, almost like a cancer, from
the head of Satan ("in sight of all the Seraphim").  (We see something like
the raising of Pandemonium.) The description of his semi- or unconscious
state is peculiar and suggestive.  Sin as product of passivity, of
non-agency.  This idea seems related to her status as rigid allegory (and is
of course associated with rigidly anti-feminist exegesis, representing in
her serpentine, grotesque features not only Spenser's Errour but also the
woman-snake tempter who appears in some Fall dramas and paintings).  As
rigid allegory she is self-referential, not a product of active choice and
deliberation, but of an entropic agency in relation to prepackaged,
inflexible "truths" or abstractions.  What is "sin" in Paradise Lost?  This
idea of fixed self-referentiality recalls Satan's narcissistic love for her
as a product of his own mind (that leapt out sans his control).  She is the
divesture of authority masked as ultimate authority.  She is complicated!
(Your student should certainly look at Victoria Kahn's essay on allegory and
the sublime in Paradise Lost.)

 

Regards,

 

Brendan  

 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Hannibal Hamlin <hamlin.hannibal at gmail.com>
wrote:

Friends and colleagues,

 

I realize this is a bit of a cheat (I do have ideas of my own), but I'm
curious to know what you all think might be the essential reading on
Milton's allegorical Sin in PL. I have a senior undergrad interested in
writing a thesis on the topic. We had a discussion of Sin on the list not
too long ago, so many of you may have ideas fresh in mind.

 

Yours gratefully,

 

Hannibal

 



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bookshops, or direct from Oxford University Press at
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Editor, Reformation
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Columbus, OH 43210-1340
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