[Milton-L] "Fortune" in Renaissance literature

Horace Jeffery Hodges horacejeffery at gmail.com
Wed Jul 31 18:48:23 EDT 2013


My stars! Are you still using that creaky old expression?

Jeffery Hodges


On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 7:21 AM, Nancy Charlton <charltonwordorder1 at gmail.com
> wrote:

> "Used to be"???  I used it this very week, in a Facebook comment.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 31, 2013, at 2:22 PM, "J. Michael Gillum" <mgillum at ret.unca.edu>
> wrote:
>
> The author of *The Discarded Image* would know that one could
> appropriately thank the stars for an ability, although his Hermit might
> place the credit elsewhere..
>
> The expression is so mechanical in English that I'm not sure it ever
> registered on me as implying a theory of causation. "Thank *my* stars"
> seems to be more common than "thank *the* stars" once you go back before
> 1800. "My stars!" used to be a common exclamation of surprise or alarm in
> American English.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Dario Rivarossa <
> dario.rivarossa at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >And thanks for Dario for providing us with Italian sources on this topic.
>>
>> Just luck, being born here ;-) but honestly it's the only lucky side in
>> this.
>>
>> But here's a counter-evidence: in the Prince Caspian episode, Lucy
>> "thanks the stars" for having the right ability in the right moment.
>> Just a figure of speech, or . . . ?
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