[Milton-L] Utterly Off Topic . . .

Horace Jeffery Hodges horacejeffery at gmail.com
Thu Jul 25 07:43:18 EDT 2013

Margaret Arnold: Thanks.

Jim Watt: Thanks, also. Sorry to be so late responding -- I've been out all
day. I finally had some time to inspect the Western Rose Window and see
that it concerns the Revelation of Saint John. The expression "Johannine
Theology" usually refers to the Gospel of John. The Greek style and the
theological focus of the two works are very different, and most New
Testament scholars believe the two works are by very different authors.

What the two have in common is a concern with high Christology, and they
share this concern with the Book of Hebrews, but they handle the
Christology differently. The Gospel appeals to Logos Christology,
Revelation to angel Christology, and Hebrews to Melchizedekian Christology.
There might be a lot to say about these three and how they were reconciled
with each other, but by the 13th century Revelation would have had a lot of
theological reflection applied to it, so I'd guess -- in my ignorance --
that one can't draw direct links between a passage in Revelation and a
scene in the stained glass of the Rose Window.

A bit like evaluating links between a biblical passage and some lines
in *Paradise


On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Watt, James <jwatt at butler.edu> wrote:

>  Congratulations Jeffery, or, more properly congratulations to your
> daughter. If I were still teaching Milton, I'd have been sure to include on
> my syllabus the fact that learning it might lead you to win a trip to the
> other side of the world.
>  Johannine theology!  Yes. What's your general 'take' (in a couple of
> paragraphs). I'm interested b/c I think it probably influenced the
> 'program' of stained glass windows in the Sainte Chapelle. (Esp. the
> Western Rose [which, after Louis's embarrassing failure in the Holy Land,
> was expunged.)
>  Jim Watt
> Prof. Emeritus
> Butler University
> now in Durango CO (no. not the University)
>  jwatt at butler.edu
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu [
> milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] on behalf of Horace Jeffery Hodges [
> horacejeffery at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 24, 2013 4:16 PM
> *To:* John Milton Discussion List
> *Subject:* [Milton-L] Utterly Off Topic . . .
>   Allow me to post this link for the general astonishment of all even
> though it has *almost* nothing to do with Milton:
> http://gypsyscholarship.blogspot.kr/2013/07/daughter-sa-rah-wins-ebs-trip-to-ozarks.html
>  My daughter did mention, however, that reading *Paradise Lost* with me
> had helped her remember the word "chaos," an answer to one of the questions
> . . .
>  Jeffery Hodges
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