[Milton-L] Vallombrosa

Jameela Lares Jameela.Lares at usm.edu
Wed Feb 20 21:59:45 EST 2013

Oh yes, please!

Jameela Lares
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Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Vallombrosa (Milton-L Digest, Vol 75, Issue 17)

Dear Evan,

Please forward the photos to the list! I think I can safely say that they will become the screensavers on quite a few Miltonists' pcs.

All best wishes,


On 02/20/13, Evan LaBuzetta <evanlabuzetta at cantab.net> wrote:
Dear Mario, all,

I can actually answer this with some certainty - in March of 2008 I visited a cousin who lives near Vallombrosa, and made a point of driving up to see the actual monastery site. I've just looked back at some pictures from that day.

Most of the trees in the area were evergreens, but there were definitely some deciduous ones as well; they were very apparent in March. If interested, get in touch directly and I can forward photos of leafless trees and even a leaf-strown brook (taken with those lines in mind).

All the best,

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Dear Friends,

I came across an odd notation recently declaring that Milton
misrepresented Vallombrosa in the famous line from PL I, "Thick as
autumnal leaves that strow the brooks / Of Vallombrosa." The writer
claimed that the line proves Milton was never at Vallombrosa; there are
only evergreens at present day Vallombrosa.  But as our local arborist
pointed out to me when I quoted the line, evergreens will gradually
displace deciduous trees and even take over a forest.  I don't recall
how dominant evergreens were when the great international Milton bash
took place in the late 1980s, bringing Miltonists from all over to
Vallombrosa and Florence. Had the evergreens completely displaced the
deciduous trees on those mountains?

Mario DiCesare

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