[Milton-L] PL in contemporary usage

Carl Bellinger bcarlb at comcast.net
Wed Mar 23 14:33:42 EDT 2011


How about "hard to tell" at 3.575

                      Thither his course he bends
Through the calm Firmament; but up or downe
By center, or eccentric, hard to tell,          [ 3.575 ]
Or Longitude, ....

A coinage or a  nice touch of the colloquial?



is not a Milton coinage here

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Leonard" <jleonard at uwo.ca>
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> "Hell broke loose" was proverbial before Milton used the phrase.  OED 
> cites it from 1600 (Hell 10 gen).
>
> The OED credits Milton with the first fully developed astronomical sense 
> of "space" ("Space may produce new worlds," as in "space: the final 
> frontier"), but Lucy Hutchinson and John Evelyn had used this sense before 
> Milton in their respective translations of Lucretius (who had used spatium 
> of outer space).
>
> Still on the topic of astronomy, numerous editors since Keightley have 
> told us that "save appearances" was a technical scholastic term (which it 
> was) and so infer that Raphael's use of the phrase is not mocking, but it 
> is still possible that Raphael puts a highbrow term to mocking use and so 
> helps to coin the modern colloquial sense.  My own view (for reasons too 
> long to go into here) is that that is exactly what Raphael does.
>
> John Leonard
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Baker" <Christopher.Baker at armstrong.edu>
> To: <milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
> Sent: Monday, March 21, 2011 1:14 PM
> Subject: [Milton-L] PL in contemporary usage
>
>
>> "Pandemonium" (1.756) and "all hell broke loose" (4.918) are perhaps the 
>> most famous of Milton's coinages in Paradise Lost, while "His Dark 
>> Materials" (Pullman),  "Darkness Visible" (Styron), "In Dubious Battle" 
>> (Steinbeck), and "Precious Bane" (Mary Webb) are book titles taken from 
>> the epic.  Is there a convenient list somewhere (or the memories of list 
>> members) that would provide other words, phrases, or titles taken from 
>> PL? I am preparing a brief advertisement for a short course on PL; any 
>> help would be appreciated.
>> Thanks,
>> Chris Baker
>>
>> Dr. Christopher Baker
>> Professor of English
>> Department of Languages, Literature and Philosophy
>> Armstrong Atlantic State University
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>>
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