[Milton-L] It's Confirmed!

James Rovira jamesrovira at gmail.com
Wed Jul 20 17:26:04 EDT 2011

Funny, I was thinking the whole time of a scene in Portrait in which
one of Stephen's schoolmates kisses the arse of a nude statue in a
museum, if I am remembering correctly.  It's been some years.  Stephen
believes his mate just doesn't get it.  The problem is not with the
nature of the work of art here, but with the limited range of
responses that the viewer is capable of achieving.

Jim R

On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Michael Gillum <mgillum at unca.edu> wrote:
> Stephen Dedalus defines pornography as something that makes you want to
> masturbate--at least that's what I think he meant about kinesis. Obviously
> this is not a rigorous critical theory, but maybe it makes sense to define
> pornography in terms of how it affects typical readers and viewers, allowing
> for differences of sexual orientation. Thus, "I know it when I see it."
> Milton's description of Adam and Eve asleep, naked and entangled under the
> shower of rose petals, is deliciously erotic but not pornographic, and it's
> one of the poem's greatest moments. The whole bliss of prelapsarian life is
> right there. And then the narrator complicates it with a dark foreshadowing.

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