[Milton-L] Final lines -- an observation

Horace Jeffery Hodges jefferyhodges at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 24 23:24:05 EST 2011


Is that "The Incredible Elopement of Lord Peter Wimsey"? I've read all the 
Dorothy Sayers novels but not that short story.

Jeffery Hodges




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From: Jameela Lares <Jameela.Lares at usm.edu>
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I hope someone will tell us the title of the Auden poem.

Lord Peter Wimsey also quotes the catalog of the ships in the original Greek 
when he is pretending to be a magician.  It's in a short story. I can't remember 
that title either.

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Someone I found very suggestive and useful when teaching The Iliad some years 
back was Gregory Nagy. His The Best of the Achaeans is excellent, and there's 
also Homeric Questions, which deals with questions like oral tradition and myth. 
I'd also recommend a piece by W.H. Auden (not sure where, off-hand -- perhaps in 
The Dyer's Hand? -- someone on the list will know) in which he makes a wonderful 
case for relishing the catalogue of the ships. He says something to the effect 
that to fail to appreciate this catalogue is to miss something fundamental about 
Homer's aesthetic.

Hannibal




On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Samuel Smith 
<SSmith at messiah.edu<mailto:SSmith at messiah.edu>> wrote:
Tony and Jim,

Both essays are available in a single volume published by the New York Review of 
Books, which includes a third essay on Bespaloff's reading by Hermann Broch.  
"War and the Iliad," 2005.

Samuel

>>> Tony Demarest <tonydemarest at hotmail.com<mailto:tonydemarest at hotmail.com>> 
>>>2/24/2011 12:26 PM >>>
Jim-

If you can, Simone Weil's essay on the Iliad: a Poem of Force is excellent for 
revealing a modern appeal; Rachel Bespaloff has written an essay which may in 
response to Weil's. Both done during WWII, I think.

Tony

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Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:12:57 -0500
Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Final lines -- an observation
From: jamesrovira at gmail.com<mailto:jamesrovira at gmail.com>
To: milton-l at lists.richmond.edu<mailto:milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>

On a note related to our very interesting discussion of the Iliad: I'll be 
teaching the Iliad for the first time this coming Fall in a Comparative 
Mythology course.  Any suggestions for teaching it?  Suggestions for individual 
or group activities, recommended approaches, companion texts, other works to 
pair with it, etc., would all be appreciated.

Thank you,

Jim R

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