[Milton-L] Milton & Lilith
Jameela.Lares at usm.edu
Tue Apr 19 11:12:39 EDT 2011
Lewis himself identifies a connection with Lilith, actually. In "What Happened after Dinner" in _The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe_, Mr. Beaver says of the White Witch, "she comes of your father Adam's . . . first wife, her they called Lilith" (page 81 in my edition).
What I am not sure about is how much of Lewis's mention has to do with George MacDonald's book, Lilith (1895). Much, I imagine, as Lewis was influenced by MacDonald.
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Thank you, Larisa. This is one of the most helpful sources on Lilith. Some critics see a relationship between her and The White Witch in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
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I have for some time entertained the notion myself, but after an in-depth research I discarded it as baseless – the best one can come up with are conjectures. I doubt not, that Milton knew the story, but he obviously had no use for it in his epic. I would say that Lilith plays greater role among his readers, especially those of the 18th and 19th century, who certainly wished to see Sin as prefiguring or embodying Lilith (Fuseli’s painting of the Lapland witches comes readily into one’s mind, and indeed, the Night-Hag part – „Lur’d with the smell of infant blood” – from Milton’s extended simile does resemble Lilith, however, it is worth noting that Milton is comparing not so much Sin with the Night-Hag, but rather the Hellhounds surround Sin with those following the Night-Hag). If you student wishes to pursue this matter, I would recommend Amy Scerba online article on Lilth, in which she does make a passing remark to Milton identifying his Sin („Snakie Sorceress [2.724]) to Lilith:
I hope this was of some help.
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A student asked me about Lilith and whether Milton knew her story or was influenced by it. I assume that Milton was well aware of the story, but I have no idea if his works, PL or otherwise, make any references to her. A scan through the index of Shoulson's Milton and the Rabbis did not turn up any mention of her, and the only mention I could find in a (very cursory) web search of Milton scholarship turned up a brief aside in Denis Saurat's 1922 article "Milton and the Zohar," where he suggests that perhaps the character of Sin was based on the Lilith legend. All this suggests to me that Milton simply wasn't interested in her story, but I wanted to check with the list to see if any of you either knew of scholarship on the subject or had your own theories about her role in shaping Milton's theology or poetry.
Thanks in advance for any thoughts.
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