[Milton-L] RE: Milton-L Digest, Vol 53, Issue 5

dario gomez darioeg at hotmail.com
Sun Apr 3 13:09:57 EDT 2011


Dear Proffessor Blair,
Could you please send it o me as well? Thank you very much.
darioeg at hotmail.com
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>    1. RE: PL permuted index (Z?mb?n? Kocic Larisa)
>    2. Re: Renaissance music--recs? (Ryan Paul)
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> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 18:02:45 +0200
> From: Z?mb?n? Kocic Larisa <larisa at lit.u-szeged.hu>
> Subject: RE: [Milton-L] PL permuted index
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> Dear Professor Blair,
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> I'm joining the gratefull crew. Could you please send it o me as well?
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> Thank you very much.
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> Larisa Kocic-Zambo
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> larisa at lit.u-szeged.hu
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> From: Hugh Wilson [mailto:wilsonh at gram.edu] 
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 5:44 PM
> To: John Milton Discussion List
> Subject: RE: [Milton-L] PL permuted index
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> Dear Professor Blair,
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> As the response shows, this is a wonderful idea.
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> Thank you for your thoughtfulness and generosity.
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> Please send me a copy of the permuted index.
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> Thanks again,
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> Hugh F. Wilson
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> (318) 274-2287
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> wilsonh at gram.edu
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> hwilson at together.net
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> [mailto:milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] On Behalf Of Judith Herz
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 9:14 AM
> To: 'John Milton Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: [Milton-L] PL permuted index
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> Ditto to all the dittos
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> Judith Herz
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> From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu
> [mailto:milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] On Behalf Of Parrish, Paul A
> Sent: April 1, 2011 10:02 AM
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> Subject: RE: [Milton-L] PL permuted index
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> I'll join the chorus of requesters.  Thanks, Bob.
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> Paul
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> Paul A. Parrish
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> Regents Professor
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> Department of English
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> Texas A&M University
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> College Station, TX 77843-4227
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> p-parrish at tamu.edu
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> From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu
> [mailto:milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] On Behalf Of Ryan Paul
> Sent: Friday, April 01, 2011 8:55 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] PL permuted index
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> Ditto for me. Thanks for providing such a useful tool!
> 
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Nancy Charlton <nbcharlton at comcast.net>
> wrote:
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> And I'd like to have it too, whether or not it is put on the web site.
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> Nancy Charlton
> nbcharlton at comcast.net
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> On 4/1/2011 6:26 AM, Jean E. Graham wrote: 
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> Yes, that would be nice.  failing that, I also would like to have your
> index, Bob.
>  
> With thanks in advance,
>  
> Jean Graham
>  
> Jean E. Graham
> Associate Professor of English
> The College of New Jersey
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nancy Charlton"  <mailto:nbcharlton at comcast.net>
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> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 10:59:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] PL permuted index
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> There are so many people who would like to have this that perhaps you might
> persuade Kevin to post it on the Milton-L web site and have it be available
> for downloading -- provided, of course, that you and Milton-L take proper
> copyright protections. 
>  
> Nancy Charlton 
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> On 3/31/2011 5:51 PM, Salwa Khoddam wrote: 
>  
> Please send me your index. Thank you for sharing your scholarship. 
> Salwa Khoddam 
> Salwa Khoddam, Ph.D. 
> Professor of English, Emerita 
> Oklahoma City University 
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Turner, Krista"
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> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 5:50 PM 
> Subject: RE: [Milton-L] PL permuted index 
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> I would love to have that as well. Thank you for sharing such a useful tool.
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> ________________________________________ 
> From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu [
> milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu ] on behalf of Bob Blair [
> bblair48 at yahoo.com ] 
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 4:11 PM 
> To: milton-l at lists.richmond.edu 
> Subject: [Milton-L] PL permuted index 
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> I have a permuted index of Paradise Lost which I will share with anyone
> interested. A permuted index shows each key word in context. I've found it
> useful in looking for word and sound combinations. 
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> The index is a text file of about 4.4 MB, so I'm reluctant to post it
> without permission. 
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> Bob Blair 
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> From: Ryan Paul <ryanspaul at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Renaissance music--recs?
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> Zack, et al:
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> About a year ago, someone asked this question on the community weblog
> metafilter.com. A number of good suggestions about composers, performers,
> and online resources:
> 
> http://ask.metafilter.com/150032/Yee-Olde-Musick-Shoppe
> 
> Best,
> Ryan Singh Paul
> 
> On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Hannibal Hamlin
> <hamlin.hannibal at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > A HUGE question, but I'll bite. Here are some particularly imaginative
> > recordings, of special interest to those who study Renaissance literature
> > and culture:
> >
> > *Bara Faustus' Dream: Mr Francis Tregian his Choice*. By Les Witches. Lute
> > songs and instrumental music inspired (i.e., for Les Witches) by the
> > recusant Francis Tregian and the fabulous Unton Memorial at the National
> > Portrait Gallery. The concept doesn't take you very far, but it's good
> > music.
> >
> > *My Lady Riche*. Emily van Evera and Christopher Morrongiello. Really a
> > brilliant album. Apart from having great music (Dowland, Byrd, Coprario and
> > others), it's like a musico-cultural biography of Penelope Devereux. Full of
> > surprises.
> >
> > *Celestiall Witchcraft: The Private Music of Henry and Charles, Princes of
> > Wales*. Fretwork. Great early 17th c. music from this court within the
> > court. Of both musical and historical interest.
> >
> > *1605: Treason & Discord: William Byrd and the Gunpowder P**lot*. The
> > Kings' Singers. Slightly weird but intriguing gathering of materials around
> > the Plot. The actual historical connections between music and event are slim
> > to none, but there's some fabuluous music here, especially by Byrd (of
> > course a recusant). His Mass for 4 his Civitas sancti especially (the latter
> > one of the very greatest of Renaissance motets).
> >  The King's Singers Renaissance recordings are all worth having, at least
> > the more recent ones. The group that's been active for the last decade or so
> > is one of the best vocal ensembles ever. They have a recording of *The
> > Triumphs of Oriana* (tedious to listen to all through, but an important
> > collection), *The English Renaissance* (Tallis and Byrd), and more.
> >
> > Buy anything by the Huelgas Ensemble -- they're brilliant and also
> > imaginative in their programming. For early Tudor music, the Sixteen have
> > recorded everything in the Eton Choirbooks. The Tallis Scholars are solid
> > and reliable, if a little uninspired sometimes. The Hilliard Ensemble did
> > some great recordings (Dunstable, Byrd, Josquin) back in the 80s, but I
> > don't know how many are still available. I wouldn't stretch back too far,
> > since the quality of early music performance has improved significantly over
> > the decades. The Deller Consort has a quaint historical interest, for
> > example, but they're painful to listen to now. The one exception I'd make is
> > David Munrow, whose ensemble made some fabulous and ground-breaking
> > recordings quite a ways back -- boxed sets of The Music of the Netherlands,
> > Early Instruments, and another of Machaut and Dufay. There's loads and loads
> > of other ensemble music, especially sacred. The Orlando Consort are very
> > good, The Byrd Edition by The Cardinal's Music is superb, and Byrd is really
> > the greatest composer of the English Renaissance, and one of the greatest
> > period -- despite the fact that Anthony Tommasini didn't include him in his
> > silly NYT list! New York's Lionheart also has an excellent recording of
> > Tudor music: *My Fayre Ladye*. Many of the church and college choirs also
> > do excellent recordings: Winchester Cathedral, King's College, St. John's
> > College, St. Paul's, etc.
> >
> > There are tons of lute song recordings. The best countertenor going is the
> > German Andreas Scholl, who is in a class by himself. Others who've done
> > Dowland, Campion, et al well are Rufus Mueller, Ian Partridge, and Emma
> > Kirkby (a very limited singer, despite having dominated the early music
> > scene in its early days, but she does lute songs well).
> >
> > There are some interesting recordings of Renaissance popular music: *How
> > the World Wags: Social Music for a Seventeenth Century Englishman*, by The
> > City Waites, and *Johnny, Cock Thy Beaver*, by The Dufay Collective.
> >  Cheers,
> >
> > Hannibal
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Zackariah Long <zclong at owu.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, there, fellow Miltonists,
> >>
> >> This is slightly tangential to the purpose of this list, but if pressed I
> >> suppose I could say I was working on "At a Solemn Music" or was interested
> >> in Milton's father:
> >>
> >> Recently I have become interested in listening to Renaissance music and
> >> was wondering if anyone had recommendations of nice places to start in the
> >> way of CDs or boxed sets. I started where I am most comfortable, with
> >> Shakespeare and Elizabethan music--of which there seems to be an abundance
> >> of easily available collections--but would be interested in ranging further
> >> abroad within the England or on the Continent. Any favorite sets or
> >> sites/labels to check out?
> >>
> >> With much appreciation,
> >> Zack
> >>
> >> --
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> > Hannibal Hamlin
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