[Milton-L] Empson

richard strier rastrier at uchicago.edu
Thu Jan 7 13:53:52 EST 2010


If you really want to be surprised, take a look at the first chapter of Resistant 
Structures, where I argue that Empson is a better HISTORICIST than Rosemond 
Tuve!


---- Original message ----
>Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:57:14 -0500
>From: "Mario A. DiCesare" <dicesare1 at mindspring.com>  
>Subject: Re: [Milton-L] She Resort + Ribbing  
>To: John Milton Discussion List <milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
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>Dear Marlene,
>
>More than once I have been publicly rebuked, in the discussion after a 
>paper, for favorably citing Empson. I am delighted to see someone as 
>widely respected as John Leonard referring to him favorably -- or so it 
>seems.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Mario
>
>
>
>
>Marlene Edelstein wrote:
>> Empson a crank!?! If I hadn't happened to read Seven Types of 
>> Ambiguity when I was a sixth-former, mostly attracted by the title, 
>> poetry, which has given my life so much meaning, would have been 
>> closed to me.
>>        Cranks for ever!!!!
>>
>>              cheerzM
>>
>> believe everything, believe nothing
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 7/1/10, John Leonard /<jleonard at uwo.ca>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>     From: John Leonard <jleonard at uwo.ca>
>>     Subject: Re: [Milton-L] She Resort + Ribbing
>>     To: "John Milton Discussion List" <milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
>>     Date: Thursday, 7 January, 2010, 16:38
>>
>>     Dear Dario,
>>      
>>     No need to excuse yourself!  On the contrary, the fact that you
>>     see these things independently offers heartening support to those
>>     of us (I hope the majority) who think that such patterns of
>>     cross-reference really do exist in PL and that Empson (who has
>>     sometimes been dismissed as a crank) is not merely imagining them.
>>      
>>     All best,
>>      
>>     John
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>         *From:* Dario Rivarossa
>>         </mc/compose?to=dario.rivarossa at gmail.com>
>>         *To:* milton-l at lists.richmond.edu
>>         </mc/compose?to=milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
>>         *Sent:* Thursday, January 07, 2010 10:25 AM
>>         *Subject:* [Milton-L] She Resort + Ribbing
>>
>>         Dear Marlene and John
>>
>>         I thank you very much for your precious references. 
>>         As an Italian, I am a self-made Milton scholar, so excuse me
>>         when I "discover" things that are well knowm from the era ---
>>         of Adam and Eve, in fact.
>>
>>         D
>>
>>         
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