[Milton-L] Milton's Prelapsarian Cosmos

Horace Jeffery Hodges jefferyhodges at yahoo.com
Tue Jan 5 18:07:32 EST 2010

Jim Rovira asked:

"Do you think Fowler is speaking metaphorically, rather than literally describing Milton's cosmos?"

I'm pretty sure that Fowler was speaking literally. For ease of checking, click on the following unwieldly address:


This is William Poole, Milton and the Idea of the Fall, quoting Fowler's entire passage, where Fowler describes Milton's astronomy -- his literal, not metaphorical astronomy.

Jeffery Hodges

From: James Rovira <jamesrovira at gmail.com>
To: John Milton Discussion List <milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
Sent: Wed, January 6, 2010 7:53:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Milton's Prelapsarian Cosmos

Jeffery --

Do you think Fowler is speaking metaphorically, rather than literally describing Milton's cosmos?  In other words, he believes Milton's universe is very fixed and orderly.  He may have similarly said that he was born on the due date.

Jim R

On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 5:04 PM, Horace Jeffery Hodges <jefferyhodges at yahoo.com> wrote:

Thanks, Michael. I had suspected that a "civil day" was a convention, but I coulldn't figure out what sort of convention existed in a prelapsarian Paradise.
>My more pressing question is this:
>"How does Fowler know that the "sun remains constantly in the same sign"? Is this an inference, or does Milton state this somewhere? PL 10.329 notes that 'the sun in Aries rose,' but would it have always remained there in an unfallen world? If so, why?"
>Could somebody clarify this for me? Why does Fowler state that the sun would always be in the same sign, presumably Aries?
>Jeffery Hodges
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