[Milton-L] the Immaculate Conception

Nairba Sirrah nairbasirrah at msn.com
Sun Dec 19 00:07:05 EST 2010


in the vein of considering the classic epic hero and the classic epic villain, let us remember that "the immaculate conception" was (if it actually happened) categorically...rape. Anytime you impregnate a woman against her will, it is rape.
 
So if Satan is the hero, guess who's the villain.
 
 
 
> Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2010 18:37:09 -0800
> From: aberghof at uci.edu
> To: milton-l at lists.richmond.edu
> Subject: [Milton-L] epic thread
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> Here are some of my favorite books on the subject. I find interesting the
> mock-epic potential of Milton's use of epic simile (allegory) in the early
> books of Paradise Lost, in relation to Satan, as well as the way epic
> allusions have Cromwell-era and therefore sobering undertones that point
> toward the limits of lived revolution. It's also interesting, in my
> opinion, to think about the paradox created when a mock-epic hero is used
> to mock the abuses of power in the era of Cromwell, specifically in that
> era's disputes over land rights. The last book listed below has an
> argument that shifts away from allusion and toward figurative language, in
> its discussion of epic. If anyone wants to pursue that line of reasoning
> off-list (if it's overloading the listserv discussion), I'd love to chat
> about the extent to which extended and therefore mock epic simile, in
> itself, is a politically incendiary speech act.
> Alice Berghof
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> Paradise lost : ideal and tragic epic / Francis C. Blessington
> Blessington, Francis C., 1942-
> Boston : Twayne Publishers, c1988
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> Paradise lost and the classical epic / Francis C. Blessington
> Blessington, Francis C., 1942-
> Boston : Routledge & K. Paul, 1979
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> The satanic epic / Neil Forsyth
> Forsyth, Neil, 1944-
> Princeton, N.J. : Princeton University Press, c2003
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> The ruins of allegory : Paradise Lost and the metamorphosis of epic
> convention / Catherine Gimelli M
> Martin, Catherine Gimelli
> Durham [N.C.] : Duke University Press, 1998
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> Allegorical poetics & the epic : the Renaissance tradition to Paradise
> lost / Mindele Anne Treip
> Treip, Mindele Anne
> Lexington, Ky. : University Press of Kentucky, c1994
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> The choice of Achilles : the ideology of figure in the epic / Susanne
> Lindgren Wofford
> Wofford, Susanne Lindgren, 1952-
> Stanford, Calif. : Stanford University Press, 1992
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