[Milton-L] Re: wow even more attacks via detail crazy glue

Nairba Sirrah nairbasirrah at msn.com
Fri Dec 17 13:19:22 EST 2010

Mr. Rovia...and everyone else...would you please mind backing off the personal attack?
My "even slightly" comment was in regard to Milton's main rhetorical theme, justifying "the ways of God to men." I wasn't talking about the obvious character names and locale. I meant the central narrative. Jesus existing before Jesus was born. Jesus speaking God's sentences from Genesis, etc.
It is a complete reconstruction, without any Biblical foundation for doing so. Justifying "the ways of god to men" by altering every essential biblical narrative is, in my opinion, religious crime.
I've tried to peacefully state my points. But I refuse to take part in petty semantical banter. I have not called anyone any names. Nor meant any personal offence. But except for Mr. Lindall, everyone who has addressed me has done so with a direct interest to to slight me or distort my purpose, categorizing me personally, etc.
Unlike you, apparently, I have a life to attend to, and (to your petty jubilation perhaps) will not continue posting today. I'm glad I tested the list waters, but I regret to find they are full of flammable oil. But don't celebrate just yet, I'll be back; I'm a Milton scholar for life.
"Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood!!" - The Animals, 1964

Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2010 12:49:47 -0500
Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Re: "tasteless" Milton (response)
From: jamesrovira at gmail.com
To: milton-l at lists.richmond.edu

I think you're not fully grasping what you grasp either.  You might want to consider what your claims sound like to people reading them.  Here's the main one:

<<But Milton's narrative is not in the Bible even slightly.>>

"Even slightly"?   

Milton's PL had an Adam and Eve.  Genesis had an Adam and Eve.  Milton's Adam and Eve ate a forbidden fruit.  Genesis's Adam and Eve ate a forbidden fruit.  Milton's PL had a monotheistic deity who created the universe.  Genesis has a monotheistic deity who created the universe.  I could go on and on, but it's already getting very silly.

If you mean that many of the details of Milton's narrative are not present in Scripture, I agree.  

If you mean that many of the details of Milton's narrative contradict Scripture, I think that's possible, but we'd need to discuss them on a case by case basis.  

But "not even slightly"?  That's far too much.

Jim R
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