[Milton-L] Aristophanes & equality

srevard at siue.edu srevard at siue.edu
Wed Aug 18 09:11:35 EDT 2010

I am not sure whether Aristophanes prioritzes male-male love over male-female or
female-female, but the dialogue as a whole certainly does.  It is not so
apparent in translation, where the words lover and beloved might be gender
neutral.  However, in Greek, they are always masculine.  This is particularly
striking with beloved--eromenos.  On the ladder of love, the relationship
between males leads to the higher love Socrates praises.
Stella Revard

Quoting "Thomas H. Luxon" <Thomas.H.Luxon at dartmouth.edu>:

> Of course Richard is correct. It did not occur to me to draw a sharp line
> between the story and its teller in this case. When you do that the
> hierarchical judgements are clearly in the commentary not in the tale. Thanks
> for that, Professor.
> But this is Aristophanes's own story, is it not? Should we not allow his
> commentary any interpretive authority? Or, better question: why does he feel
> obliged to draw out or intrude this hierarchical taxonomy of erotic
> attraction?
> Tom
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 17, 2010, at 11:28 AM, "richard strier" <rastrier at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> > but I would note that with regard to Aristophanes,
> > Luxon's view is based on commentary on the myth (and commentary which is
> > itself tricky).
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