[Milton-L] Fetishizing Greatness, was Re: Is Paradise Lost

Salwa Khoddam skhoddam at cox.net
Sun Apr 26 21:06:40 EDT 2009


Tony wrote:
"And if we consider Frost's definition of metaphor- that it is "saying one thing in terms of another," language must be metaphor. But for what?"

To experience things, both poet and audience, that they wouldn't be able to experience otherwise.
Salwa
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tony Demarest 
  To: milton-l at lists.richmond.edu 
  Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 3:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [Milton-L] Fetishizing Greatness, was Re: Is Paradise Lost


  Mallarme said "there is no such thing as prose. . . There is the alphabet. . . and as long as there is a straining toward style, there is versification."
  And if we consider Frost's definition of metaphor- that it is "saying one thing in terms of another," language must be metaphor. But for what?
  Tony

  > Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:28:09 -0400
  > Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Fetishizing Greatness, was Re: Is Paradise Lost
  > From: jamesrovira at gmail.com
  > To: milton-l at lists.richmond.edu
  > 
  > Can you give me a reason to accept this definition, Salwa? Doesn't it
  > ultimately descend from thinking that would have us ban all poets from
  > our ideal Republic? If we were to extend our thought along these
  > lines we might also consider all language as metaphor, and therefore
  > all language as poetry, and perhaps then we should abandon either the
  > word "poetry" or "language" as they have become co-extensive.
  > 
  > I think our real options here are "limited" or "rigid" or "narrow"
  > definitions of the word poetry -- which is what I thought any
  > definition is to begin with -- or no meaningful definition at all.
  > 
  > Jim R
  > 
  > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Salwa Khoddam <skhoddam at cox.net> wrote:
  > 
  >> Where there's metaphor, there's poetry.
  >> Salwa
  >>
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