[Milton-L] Is Paradise Lost

jonnyangel junkopardner at comcast.net
Thu Apr 16 11:51:05 EDT 2009

My question of "either Milton knew was doing, or he didn't" was rhetorical.

He wrote it in the Latinate style he wrote it in for a *reason*.

He knew what he was doing, but some of you I'm not so sure about...


On 4/16/09 10:49 AM, "Mario DiCesare" <dicesare1 at mindspring.com> wrote:

> Jim Rovira is absolutely right -- Milton knew exactly what he was doing. As a
> refugee classicist basking in Milton's poetry forty years ago, I wrote a
> piece, 
> "Advent'rous Song: The Texture of Milton's Epic," for "Language and Style in
> Milton: 
> A Symposium," edited by Ronald Emma and John Shawcross (NY 1967), 1-29. (That
> volume 
> celebrated the tercentenary of "Paradise Lost.") The essay concluded that the
> notion 
> of a Latinate style in Milton is superficial and half-baked at best. (No, I
> didn't 
> put it so bluntly then! But the subject did provide the opportunity to go a
> good 
> deal further than inquiry into style.)
> I couldn't put it any better than Jim did: Of course Milton knew what he was
> doing.
> Cheers,
> Mario A. DiCesare
> James Rovira wrote:
>> Not to me.  It indicates to me a giving up on the ability of English
>> to communicate eloquently on the syntactic level and produce
>> unnecessarily obscure sentences at times.  But sentence construction
>> alone can never make any work "timeless" and "transcendent" -- if
>> Milton were to write his shopping list in this form we wouldn't be
>> discussing it except as a curiosity.
>> Of course Milton knew what he was doing.
>> Jim R
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:09 AM, jonnyangel <junkopardner at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> And it's the Latinate construction (the thing after the "thing") of PL that
>>> makes it unique, transcendent, and timeless,
>>> Donch'a think?
>>> Either Milton knew what he was doing, or he didn't.
>>> (Oh, and give me Beethoven over Mozart- Mozart sounds like Bubble-Gum.)
>>> JonnyA
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