[Milton-L] Is Paradise Lost

James Rovira jamesrovira at gmail.com
Tue Apr 14 13:58:25 EDT 2009


Well, yes, the consciously inane or the convincing inane or the ironic
inane.  But the earnest inane...

http://classicpersuasion.org/pw/longinus/

Jim R

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Nancy Charlton
<ncharlton2009 at hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Nancy -- why would you expect a definition of greatness from people
>> who think the question is inane?
>
> Sometimes even inanity deserves to be taken seriously.
>
>>
>> Longinus would be a good starting point here, wouldn't it? Emphasis
>> on the experience of reading for reader, seeking qualities within the
>> text which provoke that experience, objectifying a subjective
>> experience, etc.
>
> This is getting somewhere, even if it veers over the line into psychology,
> which is seldom sublime and often the opposite. Refresh my memory: Longinus
> wrote "Peri Hysous." Was it Pope who parodied it with "Peri Bathous"?
>
> --Nancy Charlton
>
>> Jim R
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Nancy Charlton
>> <ncharlton2009 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > I can't believe it! A community that includes most of the best and
>> > brightest
>> > in Milton studies caviling over a non-issue we'd rap our students'
>> > knuckles
>> > for! There has not been one scintilla of definition of "greatness" or
>> > "poet"
>> > laid out in this whole discussion. The most that can be said is that it
>> > at
>> > least makes us focus on this omission. And maybe not take it too
>> > seriously.
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James Rovira
Tiffin University


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