[Milton-L] 'Myth' of "Unfallen" language

Diane McColley dmccolley at earthlink.net
Sat Sep 29 20:13:15 EDT 2007


I'd like to pitch in with my usual refrain, that the choice between 
pre- or post- lapsarian  implies a third possiblity, regenerate.

On Sep 29, 2007, at 4:11 PM, Horace Jeffery Hodges wrote:

> Carrol, in my postlapsarian condition, I can't quite catch your 
> meaning, which is ambiguous for me between Milton not attempting to 
> distinguish between pre- and postlapsarian writing in his epic poem 
> and Milton perhaps attempting but not succeeding in distinguishing the 
> two.
>  
> It seems to me apriori plausible that if Milton believes the story of 
> the fall of mankind, then he likely believes that language shares in 
> the fall, namely, that language is corrupted like everything else.
>  
> If that be so, then he would believe that he also is writing in 
> postlapsarian language, which could explain his concern about 
> safeguarding his poem, a concern for truth that we see in his appeals 
> to his muse.
>  
> Hence my question. Do you mean that Milton is unconcerned about 
> distinguishing between pre- and postlapsarian language or that he is 
> concerned but unsuccessful in effecting that distinction in his poem?
>
> Jeffery Hodges
>
> Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Horace Jeffery Hodges wrote:
> >
> >
> > Of course, Milton himself is writing in a postlapsarian language,
>
>  No, Milton is writing in 17th-c. English, and the many critics who 
> speak
> of "fallen" and "unfallen" language have never demonstrated any verbal
> signs by which one could distinguish these two "languages" from each
> other or from 17th-c English.
>
> Carrol
>
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