[Milton-L] Poetry Daily (liquid song)
eoor at planet.nl
Sat Sep 15 11:44:23 EDT 2007
Hi list members,
"liquid" in Italian "liquido" also means "clear", "pure"". I quote Ariosto:
"un liquido fonte/ che mormorando cade già dal monte." According to
"Vocabolario della lingua italiana"" by Nocola Zingarelli: "una voce
liquida" = a clear voice. I hope this may contribute to the discussion in
Enna C. Martina, M.A.
University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
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> Carl's coments on water in "motion" reminded me of the "fountain of living
> water" (Jer. 2.13) and Zach. 14.18, of water as the outpouring of God's
> and Rev. 22.1, etc. These images are dealt with by Danielou, Jean S.J.
> Symboles chretiens primifs. 1961. Trans. Donald Attwater. Primitive
> Christian Symbols. Baltimore: Helicon Press, 1964. There are some
> fascinating sources on water, specifically the sea, that I have been
> 1. Klein, Bernard. Ed. Fictions of the Sea. Ashgate, 2002, which has an
> article on Satan as seafarer.
> 2. Moorman, Frederic. W. The Interpretation of Nature in English Poetry
> Beowulf to Shakespeare. Strasburg: Karl J. Trubner, 1908
> 3. Treneer, Anne. The Sea in English Literature from Beowulf to Donne.
> London: Hodder and Stoughton, 1926.
> 4. Auden, W.H. The Enchafed Flood or the Romantic Iconography of the Sea.
> N.Y. Random House, 1950.
> 5. Bourke, John. The Sea as a symbol in English Poetry. Eton: Alden and
> Blackwell, 1954.
> 6. Curtius, E.R. Trans. Michael Kowal. Essays on European Literature.
> Princeton UP, 1973.
> And the most fascinating: Corbin, Alain. Le Territoire du vide. Paris:
> Aubrier, 1988. Trans Jocelyun Phelps. The Lure of the Sea: The Discovery
> the Seaside in the Western World 1750-1840. Berkeley, U of Cal P, 1944.
> That might be more than anyone wanted on Labor Day!
> Salwa Khoddam
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> >> Surely there must be a study somewhere of the symbolism of water
> >> in w. culture generally?
> > These are ubiquitous throughout Latin literature. Some are in religious
> > contexts, such as Horace's Fons Bandusiae; some are threatening, such as
> > Horace's Ship of State, his Pyrhha poem, and various passages of the
> > Aeneid; some seem simply evocative of home and happiness, such as
> > Catullus' Lydiae lacus" in Poem 31.
> > Rose Williams
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