[Milton-L] Milton and Camoes
johnegeraghty at hotmail.com
Tue Dec 4 15:40:54 EST 2007
A very nice quality hardback (Gordon Press) copy of Mickles Lusiad, at a
bargain price -9.95, can be found at Run for Cover Books:
I bought a copy from them several years ago as well as Fletchers Use of
the Bible in Miltons Prose only 7.95:
Has anyone done any serious speculation on whether Milton could have read
the Fanshawe edition?
I did just find this useful online the section from Martzs Poet of Exile
I dont think Martz pointes out, as Fallon does quoting Masson, that
Fanshawe succeeded Milton as Secretary of Foreign Tongues (Fallon says
Languages) at the restoration;
It would be wonderful if someone would put a table of parallelisms
together like Edmundson did for Vondels Lucifer. I would enjoy
A table that has Camoes Original, Fanshawes 1655, and Miltons X
Book PL would be great.
Edmundson simply does:
Lucifer Act I Paradise Lost
Line 13 Book III, line 741
It would be nice to eventually plug these all in to a grid then plug in
other epics and works of relevance (like Genesis B).
Also, since you are interested in Mickle, you might not know Dr. Johnson,
according to Boswell, once considered translating the Lusiad.
See this and a section on Mickle and the Lusiad at:
Finally, I just wanted to point out the poet Roy Campbells great interest
in Camoes. You should really take a look at his work if you have not
I just reread his Flaming Terrapin -not a Grateful Dead album- (1924)
Campbells poem Luis de Camoes starts:
CAMOES, alone, of all the lyric race,
Born in the black aurora of disaster,
Can look a common soldier if the face:
I find a comrade where I sought a master:
A bit rambling, but I hope some is helpful
Descend Thalia with a Song
>From Heavn: my Queen, Ide have it long
To the shril Pipe or to the Flute
The Viol or Apollos Lute
R ockets of flame from parallels of steel
A nd, as the rails curve, shoots from flanks of brass
T angents of fire to singe the whiskered grass
S o the mad Terrapin, with mighty shoulders
Shunting the hills, moved upon rolling boulders
That, like huge wheels, propelled with savage might,
Revolved their molten globes across the night
T ill far upon a mountains twinkling spire
H e saw the Devil on his throne of fire
R uling the world: and launched his fatal shock
O f thunder: as it leapt from rock to rock
Its tattered fringes
The old fiend heard it come, and pale with fear
Felt his harsh tresses writhe themselves and rear
For weary months from cliff to crag he fell
Until at last the grim recess of hell
Stunned by his fall, gave forth a horrid groan
S erved only to discover sights of woe,
R egions of sorrow, doleful shades, where peace
A nd rest can never dwell, hope never comes
T hat comes to all, but torture without end
S urges, and a fiery deluge, fed
With ever-burning sulphur unconsumed.
Such place Eternal Justice has prepared
For those rebellious; here their prison ordained
In utter darkness, and their portion set,
As far removed from God and light of Heaven
As from the centre thrice to th' utmost pole.
SATR with RATS tail and falling STARS:
Written in the Stars: Poetry and Philosophy in the Phaenomena of Aratus
From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu
[mailto:milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] On Behalf Of Angelica Duran
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Milton and Camoes
I am glad you already have the Braga play. Do you know if it has been
translated into English?
My forthcoming books are Milton among Spaniards and Milton in
Hispanoamerica. I have resisted placing them with a press, though, until
mid-2008. So, if you cannot list them, that is fine. At this time, I have
one article and one chapter that have been published and are available.
Please list those if they are at all relevant. If not, of course, I totally
Milton Among Hispanics: Jorge Luis Borges and Miltons Condemnation of
Prose Studies 28.2 (August 2006): 234-44.
The Textual Conversation of Las Casass Brevísima Relación and Its 1656
Translation. Approaches to Teaching the Writings of Bartolomé de Las
Eds. Santa Arias and Eyda M. Merediz. New York: MLA Press, 2007.
Best of luck in all you do.
English and Comparative Literature
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West Lafayette, Indiana 47907
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From: Erick Ramalho <ramalhoerick at yahoo.co.uk>
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Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 15:48:27 +0000 (GMT)
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Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Milton and Camoes
I do thank you for the valuable information. I´ll go at once for these
articles and, particularly, for Mickles book. All of those, I´ve just
realised, are of the utmost importance to my present work.
I have just finished my translation into Portuguese of Miltons Latin and
Greek poems. The book is going to be published next year. In my introduction
I deal with the broad Renaissance context in which Milton wrote, and my
readers, being mostly native speakers of Portuguese, are quite interested in
possible links between Milton and Camões. By the way, concerning a different
topic in this introduction of mine, I´m indebted to your essay The Poet as
Orator: One Phase of His Judicial Pose.
I also thank you very much for you attention. It is very kind of you to
offer me a copy of the play. I´m afraid I might have it already, though. I
believe this is the one by the nineteenth century playwright Costa Braga,
isnt it? Based on a Spanish similar play? Thats the one I´ve got. Anyway,
I do thank you.
As a matter of fact, I would like to include your forthcoming books in my
bibliography, for Ill certainly have readers who are going to be as
interested in your topic as I am. Could you please send me further
information on your books, such as possible release dates, publishing house,
etc. I´ll have my introduction finished by Christmas, until which date I can
include as many books as I like in my references.
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