[Milton-L] Re: Milton-L Digest, Vol 33, Issue 23

jfleming at sfu.ca jfleming at sfu.ca
Fri Jul 21 15:11:03 EDT 2006

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:19:04 -0700 (PDT) milton-l at lists.richmond.edu wrote:
> In response to James Fleming:
> You just commented that, in your view, Milton was "a very strong
> literalist." I think that explains why we seem to be coming from
> opposite points of view in much of this recent discussion. I think
> that the Milton who emphasizes the spirit as the preeminent
> interpretive authority in reading scripture, while also emphasizing
> the textual corruptions of scripture, and sewing neoplatonic themes
> into his poetry (the mechanics of descent and return seem clear to me
> in Paradise Lost, and also seem to me to play an important role in
> Paradise Regained) is less inclined to be an interpretive literalist
> than you are positing and arguing for here (especially in relation to
> a tradition of "orthodox Augustinian literalism"--though that was an
> important part of Lewis' view of Milton). We're looking at the same
> Milton and seeing two very different figures, it seems.

Yes. But this is disagreement, rather than agreement to disagree. In Of Ref,
AP, Civil Power, and DDC, M takes sola scriptura very far indeed. The spirit
is necessary, but scripture is what it reads. Ms discussion in DDC has to do
with _continuity_ of the scriptural text. His Neoplatonism, in my view, is
ethical rather than exegetic. Etc.

I will be arguing these and related points in a book. 

I agree that the recent discussions have been very useful. J

> Great discussions lately,
> Michael Bryson
> >Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 10:33:00 -0700
> >From: "Peter C. Herman" <herman2 at mail.sdsu.edu>	
> >Subject: Re: [Milton-L] The irrelevance of Satan's character  
> >To: John Milton Discussion List <milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
> >
> >Is it possible that in between 1641, when Milton published ORE, and 1667,

> >when he published PL, that is to say, over the course of 26 years, Milton

> >may have reconsidered the matter?
> >
> >Peter C. Herman
> >
> >At 10:19 AM 7/21/2006, you wrote:
> >>Cf. *Of Reformation in England* Book One: "Who is ignorant of the foul
> >>errors, the ridiculous wresting of Scripture, the heresies, the vanities
> >>thick sown through the volumes of Justin Martyr, Clemens, ORIGEN,
> >>Tertullian, and others of eldest time?" Milton's rejection of a
> >>redeemable Satan was not a rejection of Origen's authority, which for
> >>Milton is nonexistent.
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