[Milton-L] The War in Heaven

Salwa Khoddam skhoddam at cox.net
Tue Jul 11 21:30:58 EDT 2006

I don't think Adam invented fire.  He discovered a law in nature which is 
created by God.  So it's not technology. Milton would find artifice, 
extravagant and man-made ornamental art, also demonic.  Eve's tending to the 
flowers is not art in this sense.  Note Satan's throne in Bk. II. A splendid 
example of technology which reminds me of Satan's invention of the cannon in 
war in heaven are the orcs in Lord of the Rings, who melt and smelt metals 
to make their horrible war machinery.  This is technology, but the swords, 
shields, and spears of Aragorn and company are not.  I suppose motive 
determines what is technology:  Is the purpose to exploit nature, play God 
with its materials for business enterprises and Faustus-like projects, or is 
the purpose to work with God-given materials to address primary needs (i. 
clothes, food, protection from natural disasters)?
Salwa Khoddam
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Gillum" <mgillum at unca.edu>
To: "John Milton Discussion List" <milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Milton-L] The War in Heaven

>>What inventing fire? 5.396: "No fear lest dinner cool."
> Adam invents fire when bad weather begins after the Fall (10.1070-85). 
> This is after Adam has absorbed Eve's idea of repentance and begun to 
> think there may be a point to carrying on with life.
> Michael Gillum
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