csoliz at csoliz.com
Sun Aug 27 14:44:55 EDT 2006
This is great -- and I've also associated this, too, with Gallileo and the
science of astronomy that Native Americans had and that was interrupted and
forbidden and punished by the Spanish -- in the Aztec Dialogues, for
example, Carlos Quinto's and the padres switch from knowledge of the heavens
as a daily recording of the planets and stars, and the biblical war in
heaven as the only official version that the Indians were allowed.
Dr. Cristine Soliz
PhD in Comparative Literature
Faculty in English, Diné College
Associate Scholar, Center for World Indigenous Studies
csoliz at csoliz.com
> From: Jamie Morton <jlmorton at usc.edu>
> Reply-To: John Milton Discussion List <milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:27:48 -0700
> To: John Milton Discussion List <milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] elusive?
> The phrase that has stuck in my mind since my first read-through of
> Paradise Lost (back when I was a lowly college freshman) is "Amaz'd
> night-wanderer." I always look forward to that line, which is in the
> epic simile that refers to St. Elmo's fire, as Eve is following the
> serpent toward her imminent doom. It's such a small phrase, but I
> think it gets at what you're looking for (and please feel free to
> correct me if I've misinterpreted). Quite beyond his undeniable skill
> in formulating such a virtuosic and expansive epic, Milton has a quiet
> way with choosing words like an artist might paint a landscape; there's
> a reserved beauty and majesty in the way he phrases things.
> Another passage that comes to mind is the invocation in Book 3,
> beginning with "Yet not the more / Cease I to wander . . ."
> (III.26-7). His style there contrasts sharply with the bombastic (if
> beautiful) "Hail holy light" (III.1). I don't know if Milton can ever
> be called vulnerable, and I suppose his apparent vulnerability in these
> passages was likely quite formulated, but it is in his moments of
> apparent vulnerability, the quiet streams next to Milton's usual
> literary oceans, that are to me, as you say, "richer and brighter."
> "From error to error, one discovers the entire truth."
> - Sigmund Freud
> On Aug 26, 2006, at 5:54 PM, carl bellinger wrote:
>> Thanks to all who responded to my query a few weeks back, "Re: Strier,
>> disguised departures," on possible mystic mis-directions in PL. The
>> references are most helpful!
>> I would like to ask, quite apart from specific conundrums like "fit
>> audience though few" or "hope no higher," if any of you have wondered
>> at moments whether, for all its bright and symphonic and garrulous
>> surface, Paradise Lost doesn't seem to show glimmerings now and again
>> of --how to call it?-- of brighter and richer (and quieter?) things?
>> If so, are there particular phrases or passages that come to mind?
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