[Milton-L] Re: porno vs. art?

Rose Williams rwill627 at cox.net
Tue Nov 29 16:56:23 EST 2005

Of course laws vary from state to state. I am not sure where there are 
separate laws about child pornography. What disturbs me about the 
pornography as a separate issue from child abuse in general is the money to 
be made from it and the ability of the money-seekers to spread their 
photographed abuse across the world for even more money. Wherever there is 
money to be made from any activity, however foul, there will be plenty of 
people ready to humiliate and injure the weak or helpless for the gain.
I will always mount my moral high horse when the subject of such activity 
surfaces. Incidentally, my moral high horse is not nearly so high as the one 
which many people mount the moment they even think of the word "censorship" 
even if no one has said or even intended that DREADFUL word.
Rose Williams
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carrol Cox" <cbcox at ilstu.edu>
To: "John Milton Discussion List" <milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Re: porno vs. art?

> Rose Williams wrote:
>> Review what I said:
>> "Child pornography, or anything else which ABUSES the helpless for the
>> delectation
>> of a moneyed audience, is despicable. It should be outlawed, and it 
>> should
>> be prosecuted."
>> Prosecuted, not persecuted. Abuse, not artistic representation. Legal 
>> review
>> and legal justice, not censorship.
>> Rose Williams
> There may be some confusion here. Under present law in many states, even
> a cartoon representation of child sex, or a film in which adult (18 or
> over) actors _pretend_ to be children, is a crime. There is no abuse of
> children in either. And one does not need laws on child pornography as a
> separate crime.  Sexual abuse of a child, whether or not photographed,
> is a crime after all, so why a separate law on child pornography?
> I think that in some states it is even a crime to have such films in
> one's possession. So if someone sent you spam containing photos of
> children engaged in sex, and you didn't delete it quickly enough, you
> could find yourself in prison.
> Carrol
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