[Milton-L] Edenic geography

John Geraghty johnegeraghty at hotmail.com
Mon Nov 22 12:19:03 EST 2004

I don't know the best source but of the origin of the word Eden is said:
The word Eden in Hebrew means delight, luxury, pleasure, as well as 
paradise. A similar word in Sumerian E.DIN and in Akkadian Edinu means plain 
such as the flat area between two rivers.


So I think the garden was above the plain.

It is also said that the garden and two of the four rivers were blotted out 
in Noah's flood.

 Also, I'm sure someone has discussed this, although I have not seen it, but 
you might want to review psalm 107,  "solitary way"  as it seems to me to be 
an allusion by Milton.

107: http://www.bju.edu/bible/ps.107.html

4 They wandered in the wilderness in a    solitary way;         they found 
no city to dwell in.
33 He turneth rivers into a wilderness, and the watersprings into dry 

34 A fruitful land into barrenness, for the wickedness of them that dwell 

35 He turneth the wilderness into a standing water, and dry ground into 



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>I think the simple answer to this question (if there are more complex
> ones, bring them on!) is that "Eden" refers to the whole region or area.
> "Paradise" is used only to refer to "The Garden" of Eden.  That is to
> say, the garden that is (or was) situated in the region called "Eden."
> L. Schwartz
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> Baker
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>  At the end of Bk. 12, Adam and Eve are ushered "to th' Eastern Gate"
> and "down the Cliff as fast / To the subjected Plain."  They then look
> back and behold "all the Eastern side of Paradise."  It now seems as
> though they have exited Eden, but have they? In the final line, they are
> still taking their "solitary way" "Through Eden."  At what point in the
> poem do they actually leave Paradise?
> Thanks,
> Chris Baker
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