[Milton-L] memorizing dates

John Rochelle johnrochellejohn at yahoo.com
Fri Feb 20 12:55:47 EST 2004


Better than memorizing dates would be to memorize a few stanzas of Milton.
 
John Rochelle
Independent Scholar

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1. teaching practices (Duran, Angelica)
2. Re: teaching practices (Rev M J (Mike) Logsdon)
3. Re: teaching practices (James Rovira)
4. Re: teaching practices (gilliaca at jmu.edu)
5. Re: teaching practices (Beth Quitslund)
6. Re: teaching practices (Stuart Hall)
7. Re: teaching practices (James W. Broaddus)


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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 12:48:05 -0500
From: "Duran, Angelica" 
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Hello, scholars,

I remember a professor I respected once mentioning what he did in cases like the one I am about to decribe. I cannot remember his practice. So, I ask for your advice. A student just turned in a midterm exam, part of which requires students to identify the composition, publication, or performance date of a number of Milton's texts. This student wrote in answers which correctly identified the decade and year but not the century: for example, "Lycidas" 1937. What to do? Partial credit or no credit. While I will ultimately have to decide, I value your opinions.

Adios,

Angelica Duran
Assistant Professor
English Department
Purdue University
500 Oval Drive
West Lafayette, Indiana 47907-2048
USA
(765) 496-3957, phone
(765) 494-3780, fax



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From: "Rev M J (Mike) Logsdon" 
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:01:55 -0500
From: James Rovira 
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If the decade and year were correct on almost all or all answers, but 
the century was incorrect, I'd ask the student personally during which 
century Milton published his work (without mentioning the error). If 
the student is correct, I'd give full credit for the answers, assuming 
it was just a momentary lapse. If the student is incorrect, I'd mark 
all incorrect answers as incorrect.

But I think I tend to be a bit soft.

Jim

Duran, Angelica wrote:

> Hello, scholars,
>
> I remember a professor I respected once mentioning what he did in 
> cases like the one I am about to decribe. I cannot remember his 
> practice. So, I ask for your advice. A student just turned in a 
> midterm exam, part of which requires students to identify the 
> composition, publication, or performance date of a number of Milton's 
> texts. This student wrote in answers which correctly identified the 
> decade and year but not the century: for example, "Lycidas" 1937. 
> What to do? Partial credit or no credit. While I will ultimately have 
> to decide, I value your opinions.
>
> Adios,
>
> Angelica Duran
> Assistant Professor
> English Department
> Purdue University
> 500 Oval Drive
> West Lafayette, Indiana 47907-2048
> USA
> (765) 496-3957, phone
> (765) 494-3780, fax
> 
>
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:09:45 -0500
From: gilliaca at jmu.edu
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If the student got the century wrong consistently throughout, 
could it be a form of dyslexia?
Cynthia
Cynthia A. Gilliatt
English Department, JMU
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:12:02 -0500
From: Beth Quitslund 
Subject: Re: [Milton-L] teaching practices
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I would give it to her/him--I've written much sillier things without 
actually believing them. In quarters when I have both the medieval and 
Renaissance surveys, I always swap centuries at least once, as a kind of 
temporal spoonerism.

--Beth


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>Hello, scholars,
>
>I remember a professor I respected once mentioning what he did in cases 
>like the one I am about to decribe. I cannot remember his practice. So, 
>I ask for your advice. A student just turned in a midterm exam, part of 
>which requires students to identify the composition, publication, or 
>performance date of a number of Milton's texts. This student wrote in 
>answers which correctly identified the decade and year but not the 
>century: for example, "Lycidas" 1937. What to do? Partial credit or no 
>credit. While I will ultimately have to decide, I value your opinions.
>
>Adios,
>
>Angelica Duran
>Assistant Professor
>English Department
>Purdue University
>500 Oval Drive
>West Lafayette, Indiana 47907-2048
>USA
>(765) 496-3957, phone
>(765) 494-3780, fax
>
>
>_______________________________________________
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Beth Quitslund
Assistant Professor of English

Department of English
Ohio University
Athens, OH 45701
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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 18:26:15 +0000 (GMT)
From: Stuart Hall
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A great many students seem to suffer for simple number-blindness under stress. I would be tempted
to be soft on this one is I had any inkling that the student in question actually knew better.

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Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2004 13:30:50 -0500
From: "James W. Broaddus" 
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teaching practicesHe/she just just got confused in the heat of the test.If you don't give him/her full credit, he/she will never forgive you. If you do give him/her full credit, he/she will realize that you are a decent human being. 

I have never forgiven Miss Curtis for marking my answer, "William C. Bryant," wrong. The "correct" answer was "William Cullen Bryant. That was in the 7th grade in 1941.

Jim Broaddus
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Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 12:48 PM
Subject: [Milton-L] teaching practices


Hello, scholars, 

I remember a professor I respected once mentioning what he did in cases like the one I am about to decribe. I cannot remember his practice. So, I ask for your advice. A student just turned in a midterm exam, part of which requires students to identify the composition, publication, or performance date of a number of Milton's texts. This student wrote in answers which correctly identified the decade and year but not the century: for example, "Lycidas" 1937. What to do? Partial credit or no credit. While I will ultimately have to decide, I value your opinions.

Adios, 

Angelica Duran 
Assistant Professor 
English Department 
Purdue University 
500 Oval Drive 
West Lafayette, Indiana 47907-2048 
USA 
(765) 496-3957, phone 
(765) 494-3780, fax 






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