[Milton-L] Samson as suicide bomber

[jonnyangel]

What *is* the "distinct" difference? Are there any theologians on the list?
No booze? Growing your hair? I'm putting you to the test here...

There are more similarities than differences.

JA




On 5/13/09 10:18 PM, "Salwa Khoddam" <skhoddam at cox.net> wrote:

> Thanks for the correction.
> Salwa
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> There is a distinct difference between a "Nazarite" and a "Nazarene". Samson
> was the former.
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> --- On Sun, 5/10/09, Salwa Khoddam <skhoddam at cox.net> wrote:
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>> From: Salwa Khoddam <skhoddam at cox.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Milton-L]  Samson as suicide bomber
>> To: "John Milton Discussion List" <milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
>> Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 4:16 PM
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>> Jeffery wrote: "The expression "Suicide
>> Bomber" refers to anyone who blows
>> himself or herself up to kill others, usually in a
>> terrorist act." Is
>> Samson a "terrorist"? Or a
>> "freedom fighter," or "God's
>> champion"
>> elected (he was a Nazarene) to avenge the tribe of Judah?
>> Religion and Politics
>> were not separate for Samson nor for Milton (as supported
>> by his political
>> pamphlets).
>> Salwa Khoddam
>> 
>>   ----- Original Message
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>>   From:
>>   Horace
>>   Jeffery Hodges
>>   To: John
>> Milton Discussion List
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>>   Sent: Sunday, May
>> 10, 2009 1:00 AM
>>   Subject: Re:
>> [Milton-L] Samson as suicide
>>   bomber
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>>         Carrol Cox wrote:
>> 
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>>           "'Suicide
>>           Bomber' refers, of course, to Arabs,
>> who have replaced 'dirty
>>           commies' in the mythology of u.s. politics.
>> But that is not the
>>           elephant but merely the context. The elephant is
>> that, through
>>           discussing Samson in theological terms,
>> one implies that the
>>           suicide
>>           bombers of the daily newspaper are acting
>> or claiming to act
>>           from theological motives -- that they are
>> religious fanatics. But they
>>           are acting from strictly secular motives, as a
>> study of a year or so
>>           established: they represent frustrated
>> nationalism!"
>> 
>>         The expression "Suicide Bomber"
>> refers to anyone who blows himself
>>         or herself up to kill others, usually in a
>> terrorist act. The bomber can
>>         be any ethnicity and any religion -- or even have
>> no religion.
>>         Currently, most such bombers are Muslims
>> radicalized by Islamism. They
>>         may act out of a combination of motives, but
>> religion is certainly one
>>         of these. Moreover, regardless of the motivation,
>> Muslims would be
>>         unlikely to engage in "suicide" attacks
>> if these had not already been
>>         declared not acts of suicide and if these had
>> not already
>>         been theologically justified by Islamists.
>> According to such
>>         Islamists, the reward for the
>> Muslim 'suicide' bomber is paradise
>>         -- which is why they are called by Islamists
>> "martyrdom
>>         operations." Religion certainly plays a
>> major role in the
>>         phenomenon, and it cannot be ignored.
>> 
>>         Jeffery Hodges
>> 
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