[Milton-L] L'Allegro and Il Penseroso

Evan Jacobs gamefreak727 at gmail.com
Fri Mar 27 00:33:00 EDT 2009


If any of yall are interested, i attached my essay, its 5pgs and i havent 
really read it through for corrections yet. If any of you have any tips, or 
would correct a few grammatical errors that would be nice of you. FYI, i got 
a little lazy at the end, so expect to see evidence of such...

Thanks,
Evan
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Schwartz, Louis" <lschwart at richmond.edu>
To: "John Milton Discussion List" <milton-l at lists.richmond.edu>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 4:39 PM
Subject: RE: [Milton-L] L'Allegro and Il Penseroso


> Dear Harold,
>
> I'll look forward to your reply when you get a chance. I'll just add in 
> quick response to what you say here (feel free to repond to this later 
> too) that I didn't mean to imply that the two speakers are in debate with 
> each other.  In fact, I take the banishments as peremptory.
>
> Best,
>
> Louis
>
> ________________________________________
> From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu 
> [milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] On Behalf Of Harold Skulsky 
> [hskulsky at smith.edu]
> Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 6:59 PM
> To: 'John Milton Discussion List'
> Subject: RE: [Milton-L] L'Allegro and Il Penseroso
>
> Dear Louis,
>
> Thank you for your highly nutritious queries. Unfortunately, I won't be up 
> for air for several weeks. I hope you will be interested in my answers 
> when they finally arrive. Meanwhile, let me just remark that at this 
> juncture I see no evidence of a dialogue in which one interlocutor is 
> listening to (much less misconstruing) another; Milton's literary act of 
> juxtaposiing two poems with parallel forms, far from being evidence of a 
> debate, strikes me as evidence of the contrary. As for the 
> banishment-summons sequences in the respective poems, it seems to me to be 
> provable from the context, and from the specific terms used, that 
> l'Allegro could consistently second Penseroso's banishment-cum-summons if 
> he heard it, and vice versa.
>
> But at the moment (with apologies) I have been reduced  to dogmatizing 
> with wild abandon about the meaning of the poems, and about the 
> availability of evidence to establish that meaning. When I clear my desk, 
> I hope to atone for this misbehavior. It may turn out, of course, that I 
> find myself in the wrong here; your remarks are quite cogent, and in due 
> time I hope to do them the justice of either a rebuttal or a capitulation.
>
> All the best,
> Harold
>
>
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