[Milton-L] Making Milton Matter To . . .

jfleming at sfu.ca jfleming at sfu.ca
Tue Sep 23 10:37:09 EDT 2008


Gardner, I'm glad my remark prompted yours. I'm afraid I don't understand
"enfolded sublime." But  "figure that we occupy and that at the same time
occupies us" -- that sounds like tradition, in Gadamer's sense -- and that,
in my view, is indeed a key critical subject-matter, corresponding to the
handing-over or handing-down (trado, tradere) of an intension. Best wishes,
JDF 

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:08:44 -0500 milton-l at lists.richmond.edu wrote:
> James Dougal Fleming writes:
>	
> "the modalities of intensional transmission in which Milton as poet,
> and the teacher as critic, are expert."
>	
>	
> Including the modality of what Frost calls "the constant symbol," and
> what Wally Kerrigan terms "the enfolded sublime," the figure that we
> occupy and that at the same time occupies us. The semantic and the
> existential find a happy union there. If Kerrigan is also right that
> Milton is the master poet of the enfolded sublime, then Milton matters 
> very much as a master of communicable meaning. (I realize I'm probably 
> just mangling what James has already said, but at least it's an
> enthusiastic mangling, and a covert invitation for him to elaborate on 
> his observation.)
>	
> Gardner
>	
> Dr. Gardner Campbell 
> Director, Academy for Teaching and Learning 
> Assoc. Prof. of Literature and Media, Honors College 
> Baylor University 
> One Bear Place, Box 97189 
> Waco, TX 76798 
> 254.710.3412 
> www.gardnercampbell.net
> 
> ________________________________
> 
> From: milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu on behalf of jfleming at sfu.ca
> Sent: Mon 9/22/2008 2:10 PM
> To: milton-l at lists.richmond.edu
> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] Making Milton Matter To . . .
> 
> 
> 
> Louis writes:
> 
> "That peculiar intensity, that
> sense of mastery and being mastered, of being embraced and expelled, of
> embracing and expelling, teaching and being taught, is the only argument
> I've got.
> 
> Is there a better one?"
> 
> If there is -- and in my opinion, there is -- it has to do with the
> subject-matters of Milton -- in other words, the ideas that his texts are
> about. The latter, moreover, are traceable not to the ethical or visceral
> experience of the world, but to JDF
> 
> James Dougal Fleming
> Associate Professor
> Department of English
> Simon Fraser University
> 778-782-4713
> cell: 604-290-1637
> 
> Nicht deines, einer Welt.
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James Dougal Fleming
Associate Professor
Department of English
Simon Fraser University
778-782-4713
cell: 604-290-1637

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