[Milton-L] RE: Dennis Danielson's quiet voice
Tony Demarest
tonydemarest at hotmail.com
Thu Oct 9 18:22:12 EDT 2008
The west- and all the ideas that stream from the Mediterranean, Aegean, Black Sea, etc- these are very, very different from those you have mentioned, no? Perhaps the avatars are strongest in one part of the world, or perhaps there is a magnetism that lies at the root of such strong emotions. But for the West, there is no one more "civilized" than Homer, nor more free of inanity, silliness, and superstition.
Tony
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> From: jbase484 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] RE: Dennis Danielson's quiet voice
> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:36:55 -0400
> To: milton-l at lists.richmond.edu
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> Homer, poet hero extraordinaire, was able to tap Milton on the
> shoulder, as he himself had been tapped. The poetic utterance of
> legendary history, myths, songs, chants have gained followers for,
> let's say safely, well over ten thousand years. I see "ideas of rage,
> love, and home" in Gilgamesh, the Popol Vuh, and in the Adam and Eve
> stories of the Koran, Torah, the Bible, and the Dead Sea Scrolls. The
> sacred stories had a way of traveling, somehow,
> all over the world.
>
> 3-pardon me
> Susan Allison
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 9, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Tony Demarest wrote:
>
>>
>> Homer will never be forgotten because he created memory- a memory
>> of before the Fall, before the need to justify the ways of God(s)
>> to man, indeed, before any other writer/thinker discovered the
>> ideas of rage, love, and home.
>>
>> Tony
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>>> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 15:54:11 -0500
>>> From: cbcox at ilstu.edu
>>> To: milton-l at lists.richmond.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Milton-L] RE: Dennis Danielson's quiet voice
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Watt, James" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Milton's critics will be read when Homer has been forgotten.
>>>
>>> That reading and admiring Milton can lead to such incredibly ignorant
>>> statements as this is the strongest possible negative judgment of
>>> Milton. But Milton stands above such petty critics with their utter
>>> inability to grasp Homer. The Iliad, in particular the last two
>>> books,
>>> even in translation, tower over anything else ever written in the
>>> west.
>>>
>>> In that poem, humanity discovers its humanity, snd the tragic
>>> meaning of
>>> that humanity. Paradise Lost, as wonderful as it is, stands deep
>>> in the
>>> shadow of Homer.
>>>
>>> Carrol
>>>
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