[Milton-L] Justify God?

[Charles Martin]

Sorry... was taking a nap...



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Somebody- their? when has the indefinite singular become a plural? 
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> Wow...somebody didn't get their nap...
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[mailto:milton-l-bounces at lists.richmond.edu] On Behalf Of Margaret
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> No one seems to be thinking about all the other reasons to question
God's justice: diseases, death, the deaths of children, pain--and
death--in childbirth, chronic pain such as severe toothache that you
can't alleviate except by getting stinking drunk or maybe killing
yourself.  Then looking about you, injustice, rape, murder, genocide.
Milton elaborates on these things in Books 11 and 12.
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> As Edna St. Vincent Millay writes "not only under ground are the
brains of men / eaten by maggots."
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> It is not enough that yearly, down this hill,
> April
> Comes like an idiot, babbling and strewing flowers.
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> So, thank God for Excedrin, morphine, epidurals, C-sections,
transfusions, and all the advances in public health, but when I turn on
the evening news to watch the latest who-blew-up-or-bombed-whom report,
I understand the need to justify God's ways.--Margie
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> Horace Jeffery Hodges wrote:
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> In answer to my question -- i.e., "Why does Milton want to justify
God's ways to men?" -- Gardner Campbell quoted Milton in Areopagitica:
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> "many there be that complain of Divine Providence for suffering Adam
to transgress"
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> This implies that Milton was not simply responding to his own altered
fortunes in the Restoration:
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> though fall'n on evil dayes,
> On evil dayes though fall'n, and evil tongues; [PL 7.25-26]
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> (Luxon, Thomas H., ed. The Milton Reading Room,
http://www.dartmouth.edu/~milton, October, 2008.)
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> But who were these "many . . . that complain"? Was Milton thinking of
contemporaries, or was he thinking of protests raised at previous times
in the history of Christianity?
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> Jeffery Hodges

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